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Kosovo's independence...
#76
Car Dušan Wrote:What is it with all of you people:
1. Kosovo is ''home'' to all Serbian people, it is where Serbian Orthodox Church was ''born''!!!

2. Here's an example to all Catholic people who support Kosovo independence:

-What about Muslims from Iraq come and make their new home in Vatican, and in years they become the majority and after that they pronounce independent Muslim Republic of Vatican, and USA supports it. What would you say, how would you feel?
That is the way that Serbs are feeling.

3. Here is an example for all Muslim People out there who support Kosovo independance:

-What about Jews from Israel come and make their new home in Mecca, and in years they become the majority and after that they pronounce independent Jew Republic of Mecca, and USA supports it. What would you say, how would you feel?
That is the way that Serbs are feeling.

This is a begining if something bad, bad for all non-Muslim people. If you don't beileve watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc

Kosovo je Srbija!
Srbija je Kosovo!

For Ever; we have paid for the Balkan wars, they have given sanctions to us, they bombed Belgrade, they killed Slobodan Milošević, they set up Tadić, but now it is enough, God will make revenge Serbia will be a world force again remeber ym words.....

Sa Kosova zora svice,svice,svice novi dan
Gračanica sva u sjaju dočekuje Vidovdan
Oj Kosovo,Kosovo zemljo moja voljena
Zemljo slavnih vitezova Lazara i Miloša
Sve delije od Srbije, svako srce ponosno
Voli i ljubi zemlju svoju Gazimestan Kosovo
Oj Kosovo, Kosovo zemljo moja voljena
Zemljo slavnih vitezova Lazara i Miloša
Srbadija kliče cela "Ne damo te Kosovo"
To je naše uvek bilo od dedova ostalo
Oj Kosovo, Kosovo zemljo moja voljena
Zemljo slavnih vitezova Lazara i Miloša


You are saying that you beginning was with the orthodox religion and the building of some churches. Our history starts thousands of years before that and before you even came to ballkans. We are not fighting as muslims or christians we are fighting as albanians the right descendants of the Illyrian people.

Dardania(Kosova) is ALbanian.
#77
Prince Lazar Hrebeljanovic and Serbian nobility in the famous battle of Kosovo in 1389 did everything humanly possible to stop the Turkish invasion toward south eastern Europe. It was not only a clash of two armies led by their rulers Serbian prince Lazar and Turkish sultan Murat (who both perished in the battle of Kosovo), but also a clash of two civilizations, one Christian and European and other Islamic and Asiatic. Later on, in Serbian national conscience the battle of Kosovo has acquired mythical dimension of a crucial historical event, greatly affecting the consequence destiny of the whole Serbian nation. The Serbian epic poetry is very rich and the cycle of poems devoted to Kosovo are a pearl of that treasure and moral and psychological support to Serbian people during the centuries of forendous slavery under the Turks till the 19 century, and speaking of Kosovo and Metohia till 1912, when they were finally liberated from the Turks. This is the reason why in Serbian national poetry we find such a great number of representatives of Serbian nobility, of Serbian castles and outstanding Serbian monasteries from Kosovo and Metohia. Prizren, from example, in our national poetry is called the "Serbian Constantinople".The Turkish invasion of south eastern Europe and the Serbian lands as its part, have not only brought about the fall of Christian civilization, but are also responsible for the destruction of all social structures, the elimination of the Serbian elite and the destruction of the most outstanding cultural achievements. One part of Serbian nobility was killed, one part expelled to Asia, one part forced to take up Islam, and one part managed to emigrate north, west and across the Adriatic to Italy.
Until the 18th century, there are no Sqipetars* (now called Albanians) in Kosovo and Metohia in bigger agglomerations. Actually, they began settling in this region in greater numbers only in the 18th and 19th century from today’s northern Albania. In addition to the newly settled Sqipetars (now called Albanians) who were mostly Muslims or converted to Islam soon after settling in Kosovo, it is also the islamization of the Serbs that brought about great changes in the cultural environment of this region. Many of islamized Serbs gradually fused with predominantly Albanian Moslems and adopted their culture and even language. At the beginning of the second half of the 19th century, the Turks also settled Cherkeses in this region.
KOSOVO IS SERBIA!
ROMANIAN SUPPORT THE SERBIAN PEOPLE FROM KOSOVO!
#78
In the thousand year long-history of Serbs, Kosovo and Metohia were for many centuries the state center and chief religious stronghold, the heartland of their culture and springwell of its historical traditions. For a people who lived longer under foreign rule than in their own state, Kosovo and Metohia are the foundations on which national and state identity were preserved in times of tribulation and founded in times of freedom .
The Serbian national ideology which emerged out of Kosovo's tribulations and Kosovo's suffering (wherein the 1389 St. Vitus Day Battle in Kosovo polje occupies the central place), are the pillars of that grand edifice that constitutes the Serbian national pantheon. When it is said that without Kosovo there can be no Serbia or Serbian nation, it's not only the revived 19th century national romanticism: that implies more than just the territory which is covered with telling monuments of its culture and civilization, more than just a feeling of hard won national and state independence: Kosovo and Metohia are considered the key to the identity of the Serbs. It is no wonder, then, that the many turning-points in Serbian history took place in the and around Kosovo and Metohia.
#79
SERBIAN MASSACRES BEFORE NATO AIRSTRIKES.
Massacre in Rogove Village. January 1999.


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Massacre in Reçak, Nerodime. January 1999

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Massacre in Abri e Epërme, Drenicë. October, 1998.

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Massacre in Lybeniq, Drenicë. Summer, 1998.

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Massacre in Prekaz, Drenicë. February, 1998.

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Albanians beaten to death with these ""tools"" from serbian police.

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Nato soldier
Location: Basement of former headquarters of the MUP (Serbian Interior Ministry) Police, Pristina
Date: 17 June 1999


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For the first time following the discovery
of the massacre of ethnic Albanian civilians,
the public was shown the images
of already decomposed bodies
buried in a mass grave near Batajnica

The grave measured "10 metres by 10 metres" and the first bodies were found at a depth of three metres. The exhumation is being carried out in the presence of the Hague Tribunal investigators.
Minister Mihajlovic said the police had information on the existence of several mass graves with the bodies of the people from the southern Serbian province, adding that it would be better to wait for the end of the investigation to confirm or deny the information on some 800 bodies buried at several locations. Bodies from refrigerator truck shown to the public

Dusan Mihajlovic, Serbian Interior Minister
Belgrade, June 13 - At Wednesday's press conference, Serbian Interior Minister Dusan Mihajlovic played a seven-minute tape made during the exhumation of the bodies from the refrigerator truck which had been drawn out of the Danube in 1999. For the first time following the discovery of the massacre of ethnic Albanian civilians, the public was shown the images of already decomposed bodies buried in a mass grave near Batajnica.


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This has been the fate of the Albanians and the most people that were around the Serb Nation. I hope you scums are proud of your animal behaviors. I do not think that God and Christ will forgive you for such atrocities toward innocent civilians, who are the original people of Balkan.


Mikahail stop with your BS mythology propaganda, is not going to sell anymore. It was your stupid Serb Prince that betrayed the coalition against the Ottoman empire.
#80
Here is a quote by your own prophet.... :lol:


'Serbs would wage a major war in the future and their leader will lead them to disaster, defeat, and decimation... there will be enough Serbs to gather under a palm tree'

MITAR TARABIC (19 century Serb prophet)
#81
Hollywood actor George Clooney has announced that he and his colleagues will organize a protest rally against the unilateral declaration of Kosovo’s independence.
"I strive to use my popularity to help the mankind, to contribute to solving the number of problems afflicting today's world," he said.
Famous actress Sharon Stone grew up with friends who have a Serbian background, and has said she considers them to be her dearest friends, "like a brother and a sister."
"I am aware of this unjust situation concerning Kosovo, which wants to be an independent state, and it is nearly impossible for me to imagine that happening. That is why we have been thinking about organizing some kind of public protest. We are sorry that the US has no good explanation about what the truth is. The Kosovo lobby is very strong and, unfortunately, America's interests are on their side. We are waiting for the outcome of negotiations and then we will see what can be organized," the Hollywood diva said.
SERBIA, GREECE AND ROMANIA = Byzantium heritage

Great pics about suffering people from Aleksandra Radonic:
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#82
I hate violence from any side. I am orthodox and these destroyed churches,monasteries and desacralised icons hurt me.
This is a list of crime against God and Serbian faith:
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#83
mikhail Wrote:I hate violence from any side. I am orthodox and these destroyed churches,monasteries and desacralised icons hurt me.
This is a list of crime against God and Serbian faith:
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If you compare pictures with human life that you are not a christian. How shallow and hypocrite, when you so called christian country killed and destroyed the churches of Croatia. WHat happened at that moment to your faith, what was your excuse. Sorry it will not sell anymore.
#84
mikhail Wrote:Hollywood actor George Clooney has announced that he and his colleagues will organize a protest rally against the unilateral declaration of Kosovo’s independence.
"I strive to use my popularity to help the mankind, to contribute to solving the number of problems afflicting today's world," he said.
Famous actress Sharon Stone grew up with friends who have a Serbian background, and has said she considers them to be her dearest friends, "like a brother and a sister."
"I am aware of this unjust situation concerning Kosovo, which wants to be an independent state, and it is nearly impossible for me to imagine that happening. That is why we have been thinking about organizing some kind of public protest. We are sorry that the US has no good explanation about what the truth is. The Kosovo lobby is very strong and, unfortunately, America's interests are on their side. We are waiting for the outcome of negotiations and then we will see what can be organized," the Hollywood diva said.
SERBIA, GREECE AND ROMANIA = Byzantium heritage

Great pics about suffering people from Aleksandra Radonic:
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I guess you still live in denial after all the atrocities that you guys did not only to Kosova people, but Bosnia, Croatia. Yeah who created the Byzantium Empire, Konstantin the Great who had Albanian heritage... Wink

hahahah you serbs are still embarrassing yourselves. This article came out while back, and George Clooney was asked about this, and denied it. You guys are so desperate to sell anything that is not true, just like your history a myth.
#85
Sergey Wrote:I can’t understand Cosovo’s independence. In current terms it doesn’t sounds like much independence at all. To be free from someone isn’t independence in plain terms, but on the same time is only new submission. I have found that Albanians seek new misters for self only. Cry
You are really out if facts ,in this issue the contrary happened , serbian government would colse the economy in Kosova so Albanians migrate , and the demographic population changes.
Yoour Serbian government has a great biography on "well treating its citizens"

Thanks GOD Kosova is Independent , keep your 1389 , this is the only year you remember, for you history starts there

While History starts thousands of years earlier!!

Keep dreaming

"Ultranationalism" wrong path for a Nation!
#86
Ofelia Wrote:
Sergey Wrote:I can’t understand Cosovo’s independence. In current terms it doesn’t sounds like much independence at all. To be free from someone isn’t independence in plain terms, but on the same time is only new submission. I have found that Albanians seek new misters for self only. Cry
You are really out if facts ,in this issue the contrary happened , serbian government would colse the economy in Kosova so Albanians migrate , and the demographic population changes.
Yoour Serbian government has a great biography on "well treating its citizens"

Thanks GOD Kosova is Independent , keep your 1389 , this is the only year you remember, for you history starts there
While History starts thousands of years earlier!!

Keep dreaming

"Ultranationalism" wrong path for a Nation!

and where starts the american history? ther land, USA, belongs to the indian people...
#87
Guest Wrote:
Ofelia Wrote:
Sergey Wrote:I can’t understand Cosovo’s independence. In current terms it doesn’t sounds like much independence at all. To be free from someone isn’t independence in plain terms, but on the same time is only new submission. I have found that Albanians seek new misters for self only. Cry
You are really out if facts ,in this issue the contrary happened , serbian government would colse the economy in Kosova so Albanians migrate , and the demographic population changes.
Yoour Serbian government has a great biography on "well treating its citizens"

Thanks GOD Kosova is Independent , keep your 1389 , this is the only year you remember, for you history starts there
While History starts thousands of years earlier!!

Keep dreaming

"Ultranationalism" wrong path for a Nation!

and where starts the american history? ther land, USA, belongs to the indian people...

True, and they have owned up to what they have done, never tried to hide the fact the atrocities that were done to the Indian people. Whomever is left form the Indian population does not pay any taxes any school fee, etc. What the serbs have done since they came and even to the modern world where things are recorded and shown to them. They still think is ok to kill and massacre people as they want, to fulfill their purposes.

So lets leave history aside for a moment, how can you deprive almost 2 mill people the rights of anything and freedom. And you say that you are a modern western country, how can that happen. Where's your tolerance as a modern and so called Christian state. I'll tell you the way I saw the video after the protests non of them cared about their religion or any thing, some people just hide under a name so to show they are noble. You are noble when you do good by human race, not just for some buildings that you claim you build for that God.
#88
Please lets not scream anymore, cause these has been sealed before anything was declared. I guess your big brother Puttin gave up on you to get back his superpowers.... :lol:

Read carefully the paragraphs in bold.


A Russian Moderate?


By Jim Hoagland
Sunday, February 24, 2008; Page B07

Vladimir Putin will offer the next American president a frail olive branch in the person of Dmitry Medvedev next Sunday when Russian voters dutifully go to the polls to ratify Medvedev as Putin's chosen successor.

Leadership changes in Moscow and Washington this year will provide an opening for a halt in the withering erosion of U.S.-Russian relations, as well as in the war of words that the Russian president has been waging against the West. But three things need to happen:

Medvedev must turn out to be the liberal reformer that Putin now allows him to say he is. A new U.S. president will need to quickly return to the cooperative relationship with Russia on nuclear arms reductions and strategic stability that the Bush administration has largely abandoned. Finally, in their twilight months Presidents Bush and Putin will need to manage their tangled relationship with a skill and restraint lacking thus far.

Putin -- who intends to continue wielding power as Medvedev's prime minister after a two-month transition -- is offering only an option, not a commitment, by putting forward the charismatically challenged Medvedev to deal ceremonially with foreign leaders.

Medvedev, 42, has used his position as a Kremlin administrator to win Putin's complete trust, if former KGB officers possess such a thing. When Medvedev visited Washington a few years ago, his reserve and self-effacement made officials here wonder why he had made the trip -- a sentiment I shared after questioning him over the course of a dinner held by the Nixon Center.

But like Claudius under Caligula, or Anwar Sadat under Gamal Abdel Nasser, Medvedev survived by underreaching while others perished by grasping for too much too soon.

As recently as a year ago, Sergei Ivanov, then Putin's defense minister, was the clear front-runner for the presidency. When Putin launched a scathing broadside at Bush at last year's Munich security conference, Ivanov played the contrasting good cop, delivering statesman-like oratory promising global harmony. But his manifest impatience became politically fatal, Russian analysts say.

Putin saved Russian provinces the trouble and expense of having primaries, which were all held in Putin's mind. With his encouragement, Medvedev has given "campaign" speeches that promise respect for the rule of law, more personal freedoms, a much-reduced state role in the economy and cooperation with other countries, including the United States.

Were Medvedev to carry out these promises, he would have to uproot the siloviki, the ex-KGB officers Putin has installed both in the Kremlin and in corporate jobs where they have raked off fortunes. He would also reverse Russia's march away from democracy that has created much of the recent tension between Washington and Moscow.

Putin, of course, may be playing a cynical, short-term game by extending such promises through Medvedev. He is warning the siloviki that they can be tossed to the anti-corruption wolves of public opinion if they ever cross him. Internationally, a more moderate stance by Russia as a new U.S. president is being chosen may be an effort to coax the acknowledgment of Russia's return as a global power that Putin craves.

Some support for this idea comes from Putin's relatively mild public reaction to Kosovo's Feb. 17 declaration of independence and immediate Western recognition of the former Serbian province. Visiting Washington a few days later, Dmitry Peskov, Putin's spokesman, played down Kosovo as a point of U.S.-Russian conflict by saying the United Nations should determine what happens next.

Putin had already signaled that Moscow would swallow Kosovo's independence when he agreed recently to attend a NATO-Russia Council summit in Bucharest. His agreement came after months of strong attacks by Putin on decisions by Romania, a former Soviet satellite, to join the alliance and host U.S. bases.
#89
Thaci is known to have extensive criminal links. During the period of time when Thaci was head of the Kosovo Liberation Army, it was reported by the Washington Times to be financing its activities by trafficking heroin and cocaine into western Europe.
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#90
Some of you may not know:

In the Second World War, from years 1941-45, in Jasenovac, today Croatia, there was a massive killing camp.

The camp was made for killing everything that is not Croatian, in that time Ustash.
Therefor the people killed were:
1.Serbs
2.Romas/Gypies
3.Jews
4.Other not Croatian or Croatian, wich didn't think the way Ustash did.

The Camp was lead by Vjekoslav Luburić - Maks and Ante Pavelić, who was the Leader of Independent Country of Croatia, wich was Nazi oriented.
Other people in the camp were Bosniaks, Bulgarian and even some of them were Albanian.


The Final Number Of Killed people Was around
700,000 from that

500,000 Serbs

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That Is a Ustash ''soldier'' standing in middle of Kids' bodies


Links of that Massacre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrEuxAsQAM


Here you can See Why Serbs Hate Croatians, Bosniaks, Albanians........
#91
Kosovo is a sacre place for the ortodox christian, USA have sale a piece of Europe to Saudi..... why they not sale Texas to Saudi?
#92
The prime-minister of Kosovo is... :geek:
Thaçi in particular is seen as being central to the criminal activites of the Kosovo Protection Force, who were reportedly extorting money from businessmen under the guise of "taxes" for Thaçi's self appointed government. The fact that the Democratic Party of Kosovo was seen as both corrupt and criminal lead directly to the electoral defeat of the DPK in the first free elections in the province in 2001. The BBC stated at the time, " The tumbling reputation of the former KLA was to have a disastrous effect on the PDK because of the perceived overlap between its political leadership and post-KLA organised crime." Thaçi is reputed to control up to fifteen percent of the smuggling of arms, stolen cars, oil and prostitution in Kosovo, and to maintain connections with foreign mafia organizations.
#93
Kosovo's top politicians are terrorists.
#94
mikhail Wrote:Thaci is known to have extensive criminal links. During the period of time when Thaci was head of the Kosovo Liberation Army, it was reported by the Washington Times to be financing its activities by trafficking heroin and cocaine into western Europe.
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Good you gonna expect them to let their people be slaughter by a state that has been barbaric to their people for centuries. You bet your ass they would fight for their rights and their freedom. Now buzz off and accept your loss you sore looser. You brought your own distraction, keep bringing stupid stuff, as I said your mythology will not work anymore.. :lol:
#95
:lol: :lol: :lol:
#96
mikhail Wrote:The prime-minister of Kosovo is... :geek:
Thaçi in particular is seen as being central to the criminal activites of the Kosovo Protection Force, who were reportedly extorting money from businessmen under the guise of "taxes" for Thaçi's self appointed government. The fact that the Democratic Party of Kosovo was seen as both corrupt and criminal lead directly to the electoral defeat of the DPK in the first free elections in the province in 2001. The BBC stated at the time, " The tumbling reputation of the former KLA was to have a disastrous effect on the PDK because of the perceived overlap between its political leadership and post-KLA organised crime." Thaçi is reputed to control up to fifteen percent of the smuggling of arms, stolen cars, oil and prostitution in Kosovo, and to maintain connections with foreign mafia organizations.


Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

Really a geek now...man how can he be a geek you are contradicting your self, form geek to a criminal.... :lol: Please come back with your stupid analysis, you amuse all of us.



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#97
vrelogd Wrote:Kosovo's top politicians are terrorists.


So are yours...... Wink wasn't the one just died in the Hauge as a war criminal.
#98
mikhail Wrote:Kosovo is a sacre place for the ortodox christian, USA have sale a piece of Europe to Saudi..... why they not sale Texas to Saudi?

Oh man please I am Orthodox myself, stop with that claim, if your existence started with the Orthodox religion than you have no claim whatsoever. Be a true Gods person and do good by people and that is what it means to be a good christian.
#99
Ohh dear Aulona Smile
Do not spend energy with comments that are not worth of an answer, when they have no aruments they do as usually going to find fake "reasons"

I think their PM Kostunica there si looking to create a Panslav union with Russia,that would be instaed of being a member of "EU" they will be members of "PS" I ve started to believe that their origins are calling them Wink

Eu Smile hahha I m not sure this topic is worth to be in this EU forum. :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote:True, and they have owned up to what they have done, never tried to hide the fact the atrocities that were done to the Indian people. Whomever is left form the Indian population does not pay any taxes any school fee, etc. What the serbs have done since they came and even to the modern world where things are recorded and shown to them. They still think is ok to kill and massacre people as they want, to fulfill their purposes.

So lets leave history aside for a moment, how can you deprive almost 2 mill people the rights of anything and freedom. And you say that you are a modern western country, how can that happen. Where's your tolerance as a modern and so called Christian state. I'll tell you the way I saw the video after the protests non of them cared about their religion or any thing, some people just hide under a name so to show they are noble. You are noble when you do good by human race, not just for some buildings that you claim you build for that God

AuLoNa, I was a student in Prishtina...and my 'index' (i dont know the english word for that) was written first on albanian language...and they was studdy on albanian language...And school was free, too. For everybody in SFRJ. So, what rights they (albanian) dont have in Serbia, in SFRJ? Tell me, please...


sorry, the english language is not my first language




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