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An article about Serbia
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Just want to share an article I found about Serbia. Tell me what do you think about it. AND FIM! this is not "propaganda"! Wink
The rhetoric before the Serbian parliamentary election on May 11 was ugly enough, but it has got worse since. President Boris Tadic spun the outcome as a victory for the pro-European Union forces when only half the votes were counted, which served his purposes as he is also the leader of the main pro-EU party, the Democratic Party. But when all the votes were counted it turned out that 48 percent of Serbs had voted anti-EU, and only 44 percent pro-EU. (The rest voted for various small ethnic-minority parties.)

This doesn't mean that the anti-EU, pro-Moscow forces will actually form the next government, because 30 parties ran in the elections and many different coalitions are theoretically possible. The negotiations between the parties are getting quite complicated, which is why President Tadic complained about "sickening post-election mathematics [that] betray the will of the citizens and dramatically change the strategic course of the country." In other words, he fears that his side may not form the winning coalition.

The swing party whose choice will ultimately decide the shape of the next government is the Socialist Party, once the political vehicle of strongman Slobodan Milosevic, whose pan-Serbian ambitions plunged former Yugoslavia into a decade of war. Since Milosevic died while on trial for war crimes before the United Nations tribunal at The Hague, the Socialists have been trying to reposition their party, but their deepest instincts are certainly anti-EU.

For the moment, the Socialists are talking about a coalition with the ultra-nationalist Radical Party (whose leader, Vojislav Seselj, is currently on trial at The Hague on war crimes charges) and the right-wing Serbian Democrats. All three parties dislike the European Union, admire Russia, refuse to accept the independence of Kosovo, and will not surrender war criminals to the Hague tribunal. So you'd think it would be an easy deal to strike, but it's not.

As Boris Tadic put it, a socialist-nationalist coalition would probably be "a short trip on the Titanic." A country with a stagnant economy and 18 per cent unemployment really needs the influx of aid and investment that the EU can provide and Russia cannot. Moreover, some of the Socialists, whose 20 seats in parliament are indispensable to any coalition, want to remake their party as a modern, moderate left-wing party that would not be out of place in any EU member country.

That ambition would incline them towards a coalition deal with Tadic's Democratic Party, which is why the Radical leader recently warned Tadic to keep his party's "Mafioso, thieving, criminal" hands off the talks between the extreme nationalist parties and the Socialists. It really isn't possible to predict how long the horse-trading will last, or what kind of Serbian government will emerge from these negotiations. The only safe prediction is that the next government will indulge in much wishful thinking (or just plain hypocrisy) about Kosovo.

Kosovo province was the cradle of Serbian nationhood in early medieval times, but now 90 per cent of its two million people are Muslim Albanians who would rather die than live under Serbian rule. Serbia lost Kosovo nine years ago, after Milosevic's savage repression there caused NATO and the EU to wage a brief war to force Serbian troops out, and its formal independence early this year was inevitable (although illegal under international law).

It's over: Kosovo is not coming back. But no Serbian politician can publicly admit this and survive, so even Tadic, who wants Serbia to join the European Union, must pretend that getting Kosovo back is a condition of membership. Serbia's wound is admittedly fresher, but it's as if Mexican elections were dominated by the question of how to get California back, or German elections by the lost provinces of Silesia and East Prussia.
Just want to share an article I found about Serbia. Tell me what you think (fim ;-) this is not "propaganda")
The EU really wants Serbia to join, not because it has any great economic or strategic value, but because if the nationalist fever struck there again it could still destabilize the whole Balkans. Just before the election Brussels signed a Stabilization and Association Agreement (the first step towards EU membership) with the caretaker government in Belgrade to show Serbian voters that they really were welcome in Europe. But the EU will not yield on its demand that Serbia hand the war criminals over, which may queer the whole deal.

Many Serbs believe that their alternative is a close relationship with Moscow, which is outraged by the West's disregard for international law. Russians do have a genuine emotional attachment to Serbia, so the word 'friendship' is not entirely out of place. But great powers do not have friends; they have interests—and Russia's interests do not include getting into a major confrontation with the West over Serbia. It will be sympathetic to Serbia, but not very helpful.

So there is no crisis. Serbia will get a pro-EU government that gets on with negotiating the country's membership, or it will get a socialist-nationalist coalition that takes "a short trip on the Titanic." But even the Serbs are not ready for another war, so it will be a purely Serbian shipwreck—and then there will be another election (the ninth since 2000) and they will try to get the right answer again.
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#2
I see, this kind of story you have dedicate to me, about wot is hapening in Serbia Elections and troubles,
but I em not much interested wot is going on in Serbia, all I know that there is one other problem
in serbia and the government is trying to turn atention around as it is problem with Kosova Republic Independenc,
but actually there is the second Provice VOJVODINA that they are seeking their own path to,
because they don't want to happen one other serb-ultranationalist agression against this provice,
as serbs are used to rush in any part of ex-yugoslavia and comiting crimes with paramilitar-banda!
The EU is trying to have som sort of cooperation with serbia, otherwise it has to be isolated,
it's allready inside EU borders, and the Eu would not tolerate serbia or any country crosing EU borders
to be able reaching to serbia, than the serb would start starwation just like in etiopia,
if Serbs chose the anti-EU beyng enemy just like azian countries Iran, India, rusia and china! :haha :deg

One more thing, there is not on EU-table Kosova Republic..., about Serb solution to enter in EU are not! :deg :langue
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#3
EU has to convince the Serbs that they are connected by Europe, not by Russia.
Serbia was betrayed by their European allies and was humiliated by the American's Air Force.
Europe need today Serbia, more than Serbia need Europe! Confuseduper
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#4
Quote:...The EU is trying to have som sort of cooperation with serbia, otherwise it has to be isolated,
it's allready inside EU borders, and the Eu would not tolerate serbia or any country crosing EU borders
to be able reaching to serbia, than the serb would start starwation just like in etiopia...
It would be just hell on Earth if someone important in EU thinks like fim. Hitler was thinking that way and fim just shows us the way Albanians are thinkig too. I am hoping that there are some civilized Albanians at Kosovo who sences and love justice.
Serbia is independant country and have right to exist in its border. Maybe at the moment there are misunderstanding about Kosovo, but soon everibody will realize that Kosovo is internal Serbian metter.
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sasha Wrote:
Quote:...The EU is trying to have som sort of cooperation with serbia, otherwise it has to be isolated,
it's allready inside EU borders, and the Eu would not tolerate serbia or any country crosing EU borders
to be able reaching to serbia, than the serb would start starwation just like in etiopia...
It would be just hell on Earth if someone important in EU thinks like fim. Hitler was thinking that way and fim just shows us the way Albanians are thinkig too. I am hoping that there are some civilized Albanians at Kosovo who sences and love justice.
Serbia is independant country and have right to exist in its border. Maybe at the moment there are misunderstanding about Kosovo, but soon everibody will realize that Kosovo is internal Serbian metter.
Wow, here you are, how hating you are, just because you don't like the truth on your computer-screen to hear others,
and then you comparing me with this guys like "hitler", and by the way, why you don't compare me with mr.Milosevic...? :mrgreen:
Oh, I see why, he was your satan-heroe in the balkans,
and you keep in to your heart that satan-heroe ideology,
that heart you left in Kosova Republic,
the Kosovars that kind of satan-heart allready throw it in toalet! :haha :deg :evil
----- Smile Smile Smile NEWBORN Smile Smile Smile ------
:love INDEPENDENT KOSOVA REPUBLIK :love

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fim Wrote:I see, this kind of story you have dedicate to me, about wot is hapening in Serbia Elections and troubles,
but I em not much interested wot is going on in Serbia, all I know that there is one other problem
in serbia and the government is trying to turn atention around as it is problem with Kosova Republic Independenc,
but actually there is the second Provice VOJVODINA that they are seeking their own path to,
because they don't want to happen one other serb-ultranationalist agression against this provice,
as serbs are used to rush in any part of ex-yugoslavia and comiting crimes with paramilitar-banda!
The EU is trying to have som sort of cooperation with serbia, otherwise it has to be isolated,
it's allready inside EU borders, and the Eu would not tolerate serbia or any country crosing EU borders
to be able reaching to serbia, than the serb would start starwation just like in etiopia,
if Serbs chose the anti-EU beyng enemy just like azian countries Iran, India, rusia and china! :haha :deg

One more thing, there is not on EU-table Kosova Republic..., about Serb solution to enter in EU are not! :deg :langue
are you crazy do you know how many Serbs live in Voivodina ???/do you ???? 82%are Serbs and Voivodina will not be independent they will not thay are Serbs ....Serbia will never lose here provinces not to Kosovo not Voivodina know that
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#7
it seems that fim backs all kinds of separatism. Fim you'll meet a day when Kosovo will want to be divided into small pieces
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