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Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B.
I can not describe how hurted I am about lies that I red on this forum.Some "historical facts" are incredable, and i have no attention to discuss them. ONe thing more... I am also seek of attitudes of people in Europe who have never been in Serbia and know nothing about its history and real maners. It is very insulting when they describe you like killers, animals, monsters...Our only mistake was we were blind and naive to expect such destiny, so we reacted unprepared,impulsive, angry and with hurted pride what marked us like agresive nation. Now, I hope this story will end,
and that you will at last, after you took awey everything of this people - land, pride, dignity, whole generations of young people - leave us alone to try to live again. Our children have tears too...
I wish to all long, helthy life.

[b]Wooow I see you surender just like that..., after all thos atrocities you you comited with in decades, not one time, not two time, but hundreds of time your evil ultranationalism have atack nighbouring countries murdering, torturing, canibalism, genocid, burn and destroy ass one godbye to them, because if they was yours..., you would not do that!
As for your "historical facts" the rest of the world have "facts" about your country lot more than your country does, at least this international "facts" are not thos made by serbs "air-blown-facts".
Till few weeks a go you were sparking like a dying-donky around the borders and western ambasies with terrorism and your "naiv-kind" trye to bring the world in conflict..., but anyway the international comunity is not that you thoght you will full them..., shamn on you serb-ultranationalist where in the latest protests stil was reising three finger(faschisht-sign).
Nobaddy have take land of you, but you are bad-guy and bad educated living with the past barbarik-heroism from the mountines throwing granades down on vilagers..., than you come and tell us here your kind of "pride and dignity :evil: "!
Your kind of "pride and dignity" is it that special one, when your serb-paramilitar was filling up frigo-trucks with human boddyes and heading for belgrad..., it sem you solwed economy problem and you were not stoping at all, but I wonder, did you trye a piece of that.., hey milojko, how does it like diagesting human boddye :evil: , kan you tell us.., when you are in such position to tell us about your "facts, dignity and pride"! :o
And then you stil hoppe that international comunity will let you have one other ride in Republik of Kosovo for one other luting food and alcohol with human met from childring served in your table
and sing patriotik sang for your su... pride and dignity :!:

Evil serbs, eeak kanibals!

I see, you are all live...how, if serbs are cannibals?
we are not eating you all? why?

Kosovo belongs to Serbia. It is not the best way to do it, Indepence. The Albanians-Kosovars are confused because long time ago, the capital of Serbia in religion, churchs, it was Kosovo, and this new country, will be belongs to Serbia for ever, even in all hearts of the Serbian citizen.

Guest Wrote:D, i dopuna...gde prodjemo, mi ostavljamo crkve, vi dzamije...isto je, zar ne?


I ok, mi cemo nekako 'doplivati' do Kaspijskog.....al odmah posle toga Ameri da 'preplivaju' do Evrope...odavde su potekli, zar nisu? Budi iskren, ok?

Vas narod i vas "higher" politicki nivo, ste za istoriju vise nego iko, i necete da cujete kako je stanje ovamo, samo misli bistre glave, kako mozete da realizujete vas propali projekat, na mestu gde zive vise od 90 posto Albanaca, a 10 posto ostali. dakle niste ni vise od 6 posto to je sigurno, posto ste uvek baratali po procentima na svoju stranu.
Opet idete po planu da "ako dodjemo opet tamo, onda opet neki novi "cleansing", ali "ovaj put mislicemo nesto mudrije".
Budite fer, oprostite Albanskom narodu, na mucenje, torturisanje, ubistva, na svasta sto su preterpeli, i zivite svoj zivot, na vasu drzavu, a mi cemo vas pozeliti sve najbolje, ali bez nas, bez svoje "historiske znacke", ili dogurnite svoje ultranacionaliste i videcete kako cete zavrsiti!!!!

gaga Wrote:

Quote:WHo was Kostandin the Great, maybe you should go and check his backgroud or I'll give you a hint Albanian.

Konstantin the Great, was born in Nais...Nish, city in the Serbia, not Albania

hi might have been born in NIs but dont forget that nish was a albanian land before you came in so you are still on albanian land dont forgt that someday will com we want it back you cunt

People, if Kosovo never joins Serbia again, they will be the worst country in history of Europe.
There's no need to talk about who is more inteligent, better in sports, more musically tanlented, more all-arounded;

By Mensa(International high IQ Organization), the most inteligent people in the world are;
-1. Jews in Israel,
-2. Slovenians
-3. Serbs.

Sports don't need to be specially introduced, i will just name few:
-Novak Djoković
-Ana Ivanović
-Nemanja Vidić
-Waterpolo World League Champions
-U18 Basketball Team

We all Know for Marija Šerifović.

I don't think there will be worst without Kosovo. Let them Have it, and if they touch one, one Serb thing, than we should use sanctions.

Frank28 Wrote:Kosovo belongs to Serbia. It is not the best way to do it, Indepence. The Albanians-Kosovars are confused because long time ago, the capital of Serbia in religion, churchs, it was Kosovo, and this new country, will be belongs to Serbia for ever, even in all hearts of the Serbian citizen.

Wow, this is another circus-cascaderr! :o

Car Dušan Wrote:People, if Kosovo never joins Serbia again, they will be the worst country in history of Europe.
There's no need to talk about who is more inteligent, better in sports, more musically tanlented, more all-arounded;

By Mensa(International high IQ Organization), the most inteligent people in the world are;
-1. Jews in Israel,
-2. Slovenians
-3. Serbs.

Sports don't need to be specially introduced, i will just name few:
-Novak Djoković
-Ana Ivanović
-Nemanja Vidić
-Waterpolo World League Champions
-U18 Basketball Team

We all Know for Marija Šerifović.

I don't think there will be worst without Kosovo. Let them Have it, and if they touch one, one Serb thing, than we should use sanctions.

Kep your threts for your self car dushman!
I remember ones at a year 1989, when two Sport Boxin-Clubs from Prishtina and Belgrade was engaged
at this time was popullar boxer Aziz Salihu, Xhevdet Peci and this kind of guy's,
and the box started 18 matches x 3 rounds for match!
The first match Prishtina win, the second and the third, and forth and all the way allways albanians i wining in box against serbs from belgrad, than I started to hoppe myself..., will there be at least one boxer from serbia to win, but no one at all and the rezullts come to 18 for Prishtina, and 00 for Belgrad and this is true story! :mrgreen:
Than there come serb-police(ultranationalist) intervention around the ring, bifore the last winer was declared! :!:
The police and the Mr.Aziz Salihu told to boxer to continue one more round, and to give up last win to socialise with serbs a bit, but the boxer don't care, and he told them "all my friends have win boxing, and I will newer give up to" he say! :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

Someday the serbs used to use their famous proverb "SRBIJA DO TOKIJA", a sada "SRBIJA NIJE NI DO PODUJEVA".
That's what happens when you put to many "expectaions" on your self.

fim Wrote:

Car Dušan Wrote:People, if Kosovo never joins Serbia again, they will be the worst country in history of Europe.
There's no need to talk about who is more inteligent, better in sports, more musically tanlented, more all-arounded;

By Mensa(International high IQ Organization), the most inteligent people in the world are;
-1. Jews in Israel,
-2. Slovenians
-3. Serbs.

Sports don't need to be specially introduced, i will just name few:
-Novak Djoković
-Ana Ivanović
-Nemanja Vidić
-Waterpolo World League Champions
-U18 Basketball Team

We all Know for Marija Šerifović.

I don't think there will be worst without Kosovo. Let them Have it, and if they touch one, one Serb thing, than we should use sanctions.

Kep your threts for your self car dushman!
I remember ones at a year 1989, when two Sport Boxin-Clubs from Prishtina and Belgrade was engaged
at this time was popullar boxer Aziz Salihu, Xhevdet Peci and this kind of guy's,
and the box started 18 matches x 3 rounds for match!
The first match Prishtina win, the second and the third, and forth and all the way allways albanians i wining in box against serbs from belgrad, than I started to hoppe myself..., will there be at least one boxer from serbia to win, but no one at all and the rezullts come to 18 for Prishtina, and 00 for Belgrad and this is true story! :mrgreen:
Than there come serb-police(ultranationalist) intervention around the ring, bifore the last winer was declared! :!:
The police and the Mr.Aziz Salihu told to boxer to continue one more round, and to give up last win to socialise with serbs a bit, but the boxer don't care, and he told them "all my friends have win boxing, and I will newer give up to" he say! :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
1 event in the whole history. You must be Really good :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Independent Wrote:

Guest Wrote:D, i dopuna...gde prodjemo, mi ostavljamo crkve, vi dzamije...isto je, zar ne?

I ok, mi cemo nekako 'doplivati' do Kaspijskog.....al odmah posle toga Ameri da 'preplivaju' do Evrope...odavde su potekli, zar nisu? Budi iskren, ok?

Vas narod i vas "higher" politicki nivo, ste za istoriju vise nego iko, i necete da cujete kako je stanje ovamo, samo misli bistre glave, kako mozete da realizujete vas propali projekat, na mestu gde zive vise od 90 posto Albanaca, a 10 posto ostali. dakle niste ni vise od 6 posto to je sigurno, posto ste uvek baratali po procentima na svoju stranu.
Opet idete po planu da "ako dodjemo opet tamo, onda opet neki novi "cleansing", ali "ovaj put mislicemo nesto mudrije".
Budite fer, oprostite Albanskom narodu, na mucenje, torturisanje, ubistva, na svasta sto su preterpeli, i zivite svoj zivot, na vasu drzavu, a mi cemo vas pozeliti sve najbolje, ali bez nas, bez svoje "historiske znacke", ili dogurnite svoje ultranacionaliste i videcete kako cete zavrsiti!!!!

yes....you don't answer me to the questions....

Car Dušan Wrote:Sada ću da govorim Srpski jer je to jedan najlepših jezika na svetu:
Prvo ću da naglasim da i vi koji ste Albanci, pomenujete stvari iz istorije: šta se je zašto pomenuješ turski jezik i istoriju ''kosovE'', ako je to KOSOVO;
i samo ću nešto na rečem Napušiti ćete se vi još velikog Srpskog kurca. Kada se udruže Srbi iz KRAJINE, Srbi iz Srbije i Srbi iz Crne Gore, najebali ste debelo verujte.

IMA BOGA, NEMOJMO DOZVOLITI DA NAM GA UBIJU, SAMO GA BRANIMO I ON ĆE NAM SVE POVRATITI!!!

Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava

You forgot NIKE, pzd ti mtr

Srpkinja Wrote:E,nemam ja zivaca vise da citam ove siptarske nebuloze. Na kraju ce jos tvrditi da SRBI uopste ne postoje. I, gde su oni nasi hakeri, sad kad su potrebni, da ociste malo net od svakakvih sranja? :mrgreen:

Nice going, as soon as something does not coincide with your truth you want to CLEAN it with hackers. Very civilised indeed.
No wonder you lost Kosova. So many of you and Aulona beats you all, no wonder, truth is on her side and hatred is on yours.
Many you hate forever morons

Car Dušan Wrote:

fim Wrote:

Car Dušan Wrote:People, if Kosovo never joins Serbia again, they will be the worst country in history of Europe.
There's no need to talk about who is more inteligent, better in sports, more musically tanlented, more all-arounded;

By Mensa(International high IQ Organization), the most inteligent people in the world are;
-1. Jews in Israel,
-2. Slovenians
-3. Serbs.

Sports don't need to be specially introduced, i will just name few:
-Novak Djoković
-Ana Ivanović
-Nemanja Vidić
-Waterpolo World League Champions
-U18 Basketball Team

We all Know for Marija Šerifović.

I don't think there will be worst without Kosovo. Let them Have it, and if they touch one, one Serb thing, than we should use sanctions.

Kep your threts for your self car dushman!
I remember ones at a year 1989, when two Sport Boxin-Clubs from Prishtina and Belgrade was engaged
at this time was popullar boxer Aziz Salihu, Xhevdet Peci and this kind of guy's,
and the box started 18 matches x 3 rounds for match!
The first match Prishtina win, the second and the third, and forth and all the way allways albanians i wining in box against serbs from belgrad, than I started to hoppe myself..., will there be at least one boxer from serbia to win, but no one at all and the rezullts come to 18 for Prishtina, and 00 for Belgrad and this is true story! :mrgreen:
Than there come serb-police(ultranationalist) intervention around the ring, bifore the last winer was declared! :!:
The police and the Mr.Aziz Salihu told to boxer to continue one more round, and to give up last win to socialise with serbs a bit, but the boxer don't care, and he told them "all my friends have win boxing, and I will newer give up to" he say! :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
1 event in the whole history. You must be Really good :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

One is enough for you looser's to remember it for another 600 years.

Guest Wrote:

Independent Wrote:

maja Wrote:And school was free, too. For everybody in SFRJ. So, what rights they (albanian) dont have in Serbia, in SFRJ?

AuLoNa, answer me


And I will copy my index, and post that copy .

I will fullfill AuLoNa, even she is very literate and informed well, every person that was living in SFRJ, and is considering in the group of people called "normal" knows that from 1981, all public schools and institutions were "tranformed" in political stick, and late 1989, it was not possible to study in Albanian language, please don't lie yourself and public.
And about the rights, please read something out of the strict lines of public political expresion of Serbian Goverment, the Albanians have been treated as animals.
And in the end, please understand, we ALBANIANS, don't want to leave with the same cage with the BEAST, which in the end you are covering more and more hiden parts of real face, and I am glad that European heads of politics react in the end.

Indipendent, da ti kazem nesto, posto vidim da odlicno znas srpski...

Prvo, od 1989. niko nije branio da idete u skolu, fakultet, i sl. na svom jeziku, ali vi niste zeleli da radite po programima Republike Srbije, ciji ste deo.
Drugo, Aulona prvo postuje, kako je ovo planeta Zemlja za sve ljude, a zatim, da su Albanci potomci Ilira, i da je ovo vasa zemlja. A ja koliko znam, to da ste potomci Ilira, je pocelo da se javlja u doba Envera Hodze. Tada ste poceli i da dobijate muska imena, poput Ilir, i sl...E sad, odlucite, da li ta zemlja (Balkan), istorijski pripada samo vama, ili je za sve ljude sveta.

Mislim, ako pripada Albancima, ajmo onda da oteramo Amerikance iz SAD....zaboga, pa oni su dosli u Ameriku tek u XV veku...mnogo kasnije nego Sloveni na Balkan, zar ne?

I poslednje, ali ne i najmanje vazno: Srbi NISU nikakve zveri...jer, da je tako, zasto bi, posle bombardovanja, u Srbiju dosli i momci, ciji je otac bio Albanac, a majka Srpkinja???? Veruj mi, licno ih znam.

Hey Gues,


You guys have a mayor problem cause you keep searching for new arguments which again are useless.
If history does not work, then it is religion and if that one does not work then its mafia or whatever
get a life and maybe a pair of nikes

Long live AULONA

Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B.
I can not describe how hurted I am about lies that I red on this forum.Some "historical facts" are incredable, and i have no attention to discuss them. ONe thing more... I am also seek of attitudes of people in Europe who have never been in Serbia and know nothing about its history and real maners. It is very insulting when they describe you like killers, animals, monsters...Our only mistake was we were blind and naive to expect such destiny, so we reacted unprepared,impulsive, angry and with hurted pride what marked us like agresive nation. Now, I hope this story will end,
and that you will at last, after you took awey everything of this people - land, pride, dignity, whole generations of young people - leave us alone to try to live again. Our children have tears too...
I wish to all long, helthy life.

I know truth hurts, but it is still not late. use your vote wisely on the 11th.

Listen you if Albanians were not tolerant, they would wipe serbs asses when they first touched the Balkans. And if Albanians were not tolerant, they would kill each other for being three different religions within a nation. Look it what serbs did to their own race the "Bosniaks" who are nothing but muslim serbs and then you tell me who thinks higher of themselves. As their religion makes them any better, and who to hell told them because they are orthodox they are better than anyone else. What a total BS! :roll:[/quote]

Minority - in Serbia: Albanians about 2 000 000 and rising, Hungarians 466 800, Bosniaks 151 780, Romas 139 200, Croats 46 200, Slovaks about 50 000, Czehs about 33 000, Romanians about 30 000, Bulgarians about 20 000, Chinees 25 000, Ukraninians about 10 000, Russians about 10 000, Turks about 10 000, Jews 5 000, Greeks about 4 500, Germans 2 000.
Minority - In tolerant Albania: Used to be 300 000 Turks, now 20 000, rest dead or flied to Turkey, Used to be 250 000 Greeks, now Non (forced to change their names to albanian names), used to be unkwnon nuber of Romas, now non. Used to be 50 000 Serbs, now non (died, flied during Enver Hodza period of ethnic tolerance and forced to change names), Jews used to be 50 000, died during Great Albania period of racial tolerance in WW II (I am a Jew, my gradfather was hanged in square in Valona).
Ethnic structure in Srbian province of Kosovo and Metohia up tu 1999. Abanians about 1 580 000, Serbs 333 000, Romas 80 000, turks 45 000, Gorans 45 000, Bosniaks 40 000, Croats 6 000,
Present ethnic structure of virtuel, supertolerant United Emirates of Kosovo, 2007: 1 880 000 gues who?, 110 000 gues who? Romas 10 000, Turks 7 000, Gorans 40 000, Bosniaks, 10 000, Croats 180 or less.
There are only 3 places on the world, where ethnic cleansing was sucessfull, unpunished and revarded are: Croatia, Serbian repubilc in Bosnia and Kosovo.
And something about serbian nazi in WW 2! One million serbs died figthing nazi invaders and their allys. How many million albanians died fighting nazis? 12 000 !!! How many Albanians died fighting Serbian. Albanian Greek and Macedonian Partizans? 80 000 !!!
And something about crime in Europe. Every 5th car on the Kosovo roads is stolen somewhere in western Europe. You can go of the web pages on any state police in europe and see lists of most wanted criminals. There are 40 000 albainians in jails around europe, sentenced fpr murders, drugs, robbering, human trafficing, ilegal gun trading. And about 15 000 albanians on the wanted lists for the simmilar crimes. Kosovo's economy and independenceis based on crime.
Serbians had Arkan, Arkan is dead and whole his gang. Albanian Arkan has name Hasim Taci, nickname Snake, he is prime minister of some provisorium of tolerance called Kosovo. Nobody on Kosovo cant say NO to him and stay alive!!!
And yes we in serbia have a lot of hardcore nationalists, yes we have a lot of supid dumb asses, they are minority in our society but they are to loud so everybody can hear them. Yes we have ours faults, yes we did bad things to others, and we a expect from others to forgive us because they did to us terrible things too.
Albanians have all right to rule in Province of Kosovo, but nobody have a right tu tare a part Serbia like Nazi Germany tared appart Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939!
PS
Sorry on my english, my languages are Franch and Italian
Now, i cant wait for Aulona to invent, manufature and present her/his extraordinary brand new historical facts. Hurry up Aulona !!! [/quote]


Aulona will not answer to you so quikly...belive me..I had a similare problem. And myt english is werry bad, too

Pozdrav[/quote]


You guys are true comedians, honestly.
But i have to be honest - I will not miss you.
May you never wake up from your dreams

Long Live AULONA

The Indivisibility of Kosovo, and the Mitrovica Serbs
Dr. Megalommatis





Dr. Megalommatis
March 11, 2008
In an earlier article entitled ´The Indivisibility of Kosovo: Principle of International Law´, we specified that the Mitrovica Serbs do not have right to either secession from Kosova or formation of an independent state. We explained that their arguments, approaches and considerations are erroneous for mainly two reasons, historical and political.

Their errors in historical considerations are due to the fact that the Mitrovica Serbs reject historical developments pertaining to the presence of Albanian majority on a territory that was Serbian before 600 or 500 years (and Illyrian before 2000 years). We expanded on this subject, highlighting the foreign involvement in the pseudo-liberation of Kosova´s territory by the Serbian army in 1912, underscoring the voluntary Serbian abandonment of Kosova, their supposed ´Jerusalem´, and clarifying that the colonial character of the Serbian 1912 invasion of Kosova does not entitle the Serbs to any anti-Kosovar pseudo-historical rhetoric.

We also affirmed that Mitrovica was never an administrative area, province or district, and consequently the Mitrovica Serbs, who rejected Kosova´s formal independence, arguing that Kosova was only an autonomous province (not a People´s Republic like Macedonia or Slovenia), cannot now present in favour of their position an argumentation that contradicts in all its fundamental principles the argumentation that they had earlier defended against the Kosovar position.

It has to be clearly understood, and the sooner the better, that if an argument, a concept or a principle is used by a political party, establishment, etc. on a certain case, basics of political morality impose that the earlier user is bound to stick to it under any circumstances whatsoever; and if this does not happen, the earlier supported position is totally and irrevocably discredited.

By arguing against Kosova´s independence on basis of administrative logic (an autonomous province is not a People´s Republic), the Mitrovica Serbs and all the nationalistic and chauvinistic realm of Serbia made their point clear: administrative status matters to them. It will therefore matter too, when we will compare Kosova (an autonomous province) to Mitrovica (a non status area, a mere ´nothing´).

Beyond the need to keep the same standards and refer to the same principles, there is a grave political dimension that the Mitrovica Serbs have to realize. By avoiding to thoroughly assess the Political History of Modern Balkans (over the past 200 years), the Mitrovica Serbs simply destroy their chances of peacefully surviving in that part of the world.

In the present article we will focus on the political reasons for which the Serb secessionist, anti-Kosovar stance is erroneous and biased.

Political, social and cultural persecution entitles to Secession

Kosovars´ persecution, tortures, and massacres have been well documented over the past 16 years; we all know who persecuted whom in Kosovo 1998 and 1999. It was the Serbs paramilitary, army and nationalistic terrorists, who undertook an ethnic cleansing, intending to physically eliminate the Albanian Kosovars from their homeland. In the winter 98, the Serb terrorist state machine and the merciless nationalistic Serbs premeditatedly forced 300000 Albanian Kosovars to seek home in the mountains, the cliffs, the plains, and the woods. This will never be forgotten by the civilized people allover the world.

With a so high number of internally displaced people, the international intervention had become inevitable. During the conflict, more than half the Albanian Kosovar population had to flee. Even worse, no less than 20000 Albanian Kosovar women have been raped, and no less than 11000 killings have been reported to the International Court of Justice. This too will never be forgotten.

Nothing similar happened to the Mitrovica Serbs, who never faced a terrorist state´s paramilitary machine moving against them. Instead of keeping the same, racist, anti-Albanian, anti-Catholic, and Anti-Islamic rhetoric, the Mitrovica Serbs must now conclude that they were never under attack, and they never became the ethnic cleansing target of another nation. As they still complain about eventual atrocities of the KLA, the Mitrovica Serbs have to provide explanations as to the possible reasons the criminal dictator Milosevic reduced Kosova´s autonomous status within Serbia in 1989.

As a matter of fact, the KLA did not exist since times immemorial; the organization was formed in the early 80s as a consequence of the de-albanization process of Kosova that the rising Serbian chauvinism ominously heralded. In other words, the Serbs triggered it all!

It is well known that in the very beginning the main political target of the KLA leadership was an Albanian People´s Republic within the federal state of post-Tito Yugoslavia. Simple rationalism, logic and common sense should make every Serb, and particularly those of Mitrovica, regret that this did not happen.

In fact, in their paranoiac intension to control a land that did not belong to them anymore, the chauvinist Serbs contributed to the rise of the KLA to political supremacy among the Albanian Kosovars. From the March 1981 turmoil to the June 1989 Declaration of Hatred (Milosevic´s speech about a 600 years old battle that did not concern the outright majority of the people of Kosova), every perspective of peace was systematically demolished by the Serbs, and the Mitrovica Serbs, who still do not regret for their mistakes and do not repent for their sins. How Christian of them!



This unacceptable Serbian attitude was therefore castigated by the rightful formal independence of Kosova. And as the Mitrovica Serbs have not become an ethnic cleansing target, they cannot be offered a right that was not accorded to the Albanian Kosovars in 1979: that of bloodless and peaceful secession.

Beyond the political fairness that the international community should deploy by treating two peoples in the same way, there are further political reasons for which the Mitrovica Serbs cannot be entitled to the right of secession and formal independence.

Mitrovica Serbs: the Epitome of Anti-Albanian and Anti-Islamic Racism

In fact, the Mitrovica Serbs have repeatedly failed to demonstrate the ability to cope with the fundamental ideas and concepts of our times. All that represents a Value for the international community is utterly meaningless to them; Humanism, Human Rights, the right of a nation to self-determination, national independence, freedom, democracy, equity, equality among the citizens of a country, and among the various nations, justice and fair treatment of the minorities, ethnic and religious groups, and last but not least, religious tolerance, are all unknown to them. Even worse, their political leaders give long speeches to disapprove of all these globally accepted values.

What is at the epicenter of their perverted rhetoric is the most dangerous nationalistic paroxysm that takes the form of historical irredentism. The reference to territories formerly occupied by peoples / nations other than the present occupants is bound to bring wars, strife, hatred and misery.

The Serb claim to the Serbian historicity of Kosova consists in sheer threat to the entire mankind; any political ramification of this claim can trigger further wars in the Balkans, and similarly in the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and last but not least Europe. And it can be easily rejected at the level of historical irredentism; before being Serb, Kosova was Illyrian. If we enter into this ´logic´, we will soon reach the Neolithic – not as historical analysis but as a lifestyle (due to the wars that will be triggered meanwhile).

As such, the historical irredentism should be formally and solemnly denounced in an International Convention that would help greatly the international community avoid further war adventures.

A great differentiation should be made between Historical Irredentism and Constitutional Irredentism, a term that should be understood as the present constitutional claim of a nation, ethnic and/or linguistic group (consisting in the majority of the population on a territory) for national independence, and eventually for the subsequent merge / union with another country. Any unsubstantiated claim should be categorically denounced, and related action should be immediately taken by the UN.

As far as the Mitrovica Serbs are concerned, it must become clear to them that their only right is to accept the new country in which they find themselves, and after demanding and obtaining respect for their rights as an ethnic and religious minority, to peacefully integrate within the Republic of Kosova. If this is not convenient to them, they should relocate to mainland Serbia – not Sanjak and Voivodina that are non-Serb territories still occupied by the Serbs - by ´right´ of colonial invasion (1912 – 1919).

Serbia and the Serbs in Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should become a matter of great concern for the international community. For the following reasons:

1. What happened to the Albanian Kosovars must not occur to the Sanjakis and the Voivodinians. International infrastructure must be deployed in Sanjak and Voivodina beforehand.

2. Secessions from Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should be declared as danger for the world peace, and impermissible. The spectrum of a new Balkan war over Mitrovica between Albania, Kosova and Serbia, potentially involving Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia and Turkey, should be eliminated as soon as possible.

3. The Serbian chauvinism and irredentism must not be tolerated, and for a certain period Serbia and the Serbs in Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should be placed under international tutelage that will set among them the foundations of a new tolerant Serbian approach to the adjacent nations and religions. Today´s Serbs should be viewed as 1945 Germans for having tolerated an unspeakably racist regime, and they must be dealt with accordingly. Courts of Justice may certainly contribute to world peace greatly, but in the end, Peace presupposes a Culture for Peace.

niko Wrote:TO AuLoNa

I am not from Serbia, but never mind. But I realy wonder are you just pretending or you are realy hermafrodite?

If you are not from serbia, I am thinking you may be greek.. :lol:

AuLoNa Wrote:The Indivisibility of Kosovo, and the Mitrovica Serbs
Dr. Megalommatis





Dr. Megalommatis
March 11, 2008
In an earlier article entitled ´The Indivisibility of Kosovo: Principle of International Law´, we specified that the Mitrovica Serbs do not have right to either secession from Kosova or formation of an independent state. We explained that their arguments, approaches and considerations are erroneous for mainly two reasons, historical and political.

Their errors in historical considerations are due to the fact that the Mitrovica Serbs reject historical developments pertaining to the presence of Albanian majority on a territory that was Serbian before 600 or 500 years (and Illyrian before 2000 years). We expanded on this subject, highlighting the foreign involvement in the pseudo-liberation of Kosova´s territory by the Serbian army in 1912, underscoring the voluntary Serbian abandonment of Kosova, their supposed ´Jerusalem´, and clarifying that the colonial character of the Serbian 1912 invasion of Kosova does not entitle the Serbs to any anti-Kosovar pseudo-historical rhetoric.

We also affirmed that Mitrovica was never an administrative area, province or district, and consequently the Mitrovica Serbs, who rejected Kosova´s formal independence, arguing that Kosova was only an autonomous province (not a People´s Republic like Macedonia or Slovenia), cannot now present in favour of their position an argumentation that contradicts in all its fundamental principles the argumentation that they had earlier defended against the Kosovar position.

It has to be clearly understood, and the sooner the better, that if an argument, a concept or a principle is used by a political party, establishment, etc. on a certain case, basics of political morality impose that the earlier user is bound to stick to it under any circumstances whatsoever; and if this does not happen, the earlier supported position is totally and irrevocably discredited.

By arguing against Kosova´s independence on basis of administrative logic (an autonomous province is not a People´s Republic), the Mitrovica Serbs and all the nationalistic and chauvinistic realm of Serbia made their point clear: administrative status matters to them. It will therefore matter too, when we will compare Kosova (an autonomous province) to Mitrovica (a non status area, a mere ´nothing´).

Beyond the need to keep the same standards and refer to the same principles, there is a grave political dimension that the Mitrovica Serbs have to realize. By avoiding to thoroughly assess the Political History of Modern Balkans (over the past 200 years), the Mitrovica Serbs simply destroy their chances of peacefully surviving in that part of the world.

In the present article we will focus on the political reasons for which the Serb secessionist, anti-Kosovar stance is erroneous and biased.

Political, social and cultural persecution entitles to Secession

Kosovars´ persecution, tortures, and massacres have been well documented over the past 16 years; we all know who persecuted whom in Kosovo 1998 and 1999. It was the Serbs paramilitary, army and nationalistic terrorists, who undertook an ethnic cleansing, intending to physically eliminate the Albanian Kosovars from their homeland. In the winter 98, the Serb terrorist state machine and the merciless nationalistic Serbs premeditatedly forced 300000 Albanian Kosovars to seek home in the mountains, the cliffs, the plains, and the woods. This will never be forgotten by the civilized people allover the world.

With a so high number of internally displaced people, the international intervention had become inevitable. During the conflict, more than half the Albanian Kosovar population had to flee. Even worse, no less than 20000 Albanian Kosovar women have been raped, and no less than 11000 killings have been reported to the International Court of Justice. This too will never be forgotten.

Nothing similar happened to the Mitrovica Serbs, who never faced a terrorist state´s paramilitary machine moving against them. Instead of keeping the same, racist, anti-Albanian, anti-Catholic, and Anti-Islamic rhetoric, the Mitrovica Serbs must now conclude that they were never under attack, and they never became the ethnic cleansing target of another nation. As they still complain about eventual atrocities of the KLA, the Mitrovica Serbs have to provide explanations as to the possible reasons the criminal dictator Milosevic reduced Kosova´s autonomous status within Serbia in 1989.

As a matter of fact, the KLA did not exist since times immemorial; the organization was formed in the early 80s as a consequence of the de-albanization process of Kosova that the rising Serbian chauvinism ominously heralded. In other words, the Serbs triggered it all!

It is well known that in the very beginning the main political target of the KLA leadership was an Albanian People´s Republic within the federal state of post-Tito Yugoslavia. Simple rationalism, logic and common sense should make every Serb, and particularly those of Mitrovica, regret that this did not happen.

In fact, in their paranoiac intension to control a land that did not belong to them anymore, the chauvinist Serbs contributed to the rise of the KLA to political supremacy among the Albanian Kosovars. From the March 1981 turmoil to the June 1989 Declaration of Hatred (Milosevic´s speech about a 600 years old battle that did not concern the outright majority of the people of Kosova), every perspective of peace was systematically demolished by the Serbs, and the Mitrovica Serbs, who still do not regret for their mistakes and do not repent for their sins. How Christian of them!



This unacceptable Serbian attitude was therefore castigated by the rightful formal independence of Kosova. And as the Mitrovica Serbs have not become an ethnic cleansing target, they cannot be offered a right that was not accorded to the Albanian Kosovars in 1979: that of bloodless and peaceful secession.

Beyond the political fairness that the international community should deploy by treating two peoples in the same way, there are further political reasons for which the Mitrovica Serbs cannot be entitled to the right of secession and formal independence.

Mitrovica Serbs: the Epitome of Anti-Albanian and Anti-Islamic Racism

In fact, the Mitrovica Serbs have repeatedly failed to demonstrate the ability to cope with the fundamental ideas and concepts of our times. All that represents a Value for the international community is utterly meaningless to them; Humanism, Human Rights, the right of a nation to self-determination, national independence, freedom, democracy, equity, equality among the citizens of a country, and among the various nations, justice and fair treatment of the minorities, ethnic and religious groups, and last but not least, religious tolerance, are all unknown to them. Even worse, their political leaders give long speeches to disapprove of all these globally accepted values.

What is at the epicenter of their perverted rhetoric is the most dangerous nationalistic paroxysm that takes the form of historical irredentism. The reference to territories formerly occupied by peoples / nations other than the present occupants is bound to bring wars, strife, hatred and misery.

The Serb claim to the Serbian historicity of Kosova consists in sheer threat to the entire mankind; any political ramification of this claim can trigger further wars in the Balkans, and similarly in the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and last but not least Europe. And it can be easily rejected at the level of historical irredentism; before being Serb, Kosova was Illyrian. If we enter into this ´logic´, we will soon reach the Neolithic – not as historical analysis but as a lifestyle (due to the wars that will be triggered meanwhile).

As such, the historical irredentism should be formally and solemnly denounced in an International Convention that would help greatly the international community avoid further war adventures.

A great differentiation should be made between Historical Irredentism and Constitutional Irredentism, a term that should be understood as the present constitutional claim of a nation, ethnic and/or linguistic group (consisting in the majority of the population on a territory) for national independence, and eventually for the subsequent merge / union with another country. Any unsubstantiated claim should be categorically denounced, and related action should be immediately taken by the UN.

As far as the Mitrovica Serbs are concerned, it must become clear to them that their only right is to accept the new country in which they find themselves, and after demanding and obtaining respect for their rights as an ethnic and religious minority, to peacefully integrate within the Republic of Kosova. If this is not convenient to them, they should relocate to mainland Serbia – not Sanjak and Voivodina that are non-Serb territories still occupied by the Serbs - by ´right´ of colonial invasion (1912 – 1919).

Serbia and the Serbs in Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should become a matter of great concern for the international community. For the following reasons:

1. What happened to the Albanian Kosovars must not occur to the Sanjakis and the Voivodinians. International infrastructure must be deployed in Sanjak and Voivodina beforehand.

2. Secessions from Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should be declared as danger for the world peace, and impermissible. The spectrum of a new Balkan war over Mitrovica between Albania, Kosova and Serbia, potentially involving Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia and Turkey, should be eliminated as soon as possible.

3. The Serbian chauvinism and irredentism must not be tolerated, and for a certain period Serbia and the Serbs in Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia should be placed under international tutelage that will set among them the foundations of a new tolerant Serbian approach to the adjacent nations and religions. Today´s Serbs should be viewed as 1945 Germans for having tolerated an unspeakably racist regime, and they must be dealt with accordingly. Courts of Justice may certainly contribute to world peace greatly, but in the end, Peace presupposes a Culture for Peace.

Yeap, that's right Aulona, gud sayed! 8-)

Do you have any source for all information provided?

Brave.Heart Wrote:Do you have any source for all information provided?

Yeap here is one for start very evident, the one serb ally rusia officials have it,
and they throw the truth out in publik, so how do you like the truth,
I mean the truth is on this official-rusian map about serb original teritory at year 1817,
where the true borders lays about 100 km away from Kosovo-Mitrovica.
Most of the war criminals from bosnia, croatia and kosova is hiding in north-Kosovo-Mitrovica after the war ower
in Kosovo, the rusian suport for serbs-kriminals made them posible to ocupye north-Kosovo-Mitrovica,
and now belgrad is abusing kosovo serbs to violate the piece-proces and the stability of region!
Now this kind of war-kriminals they fear the justice and law enforcment will have to take it over the Kosovo-Mitrovica
and the serb-kriminals hiding there, have no where to hide any more, now serbs is trying to jupadrice the situation! :evil:

- Fortunately people all around the world see who serbs are. Bombs against UN Police and UN rules.On the albanian part life goings on. Kosova is an Independent country for democratic part of the world and a serbian "province" for the most antidemocratic countries like Serbia,Rusia,Greece,India,China...I am glad that we are on the right side of the world. Serbs are with Rusia,India,China,Indonesia,Sadam Hussein,Usama Bin Laden etc. You see now who are serbian friends ?

GUYS LETS JUST CLOSE THIS THREAD WITH A QUOTE WRITTEN BY A SERB ABOUT SERBS!

Quote:"LYING IS A FORM OF OUR PATRIOTISM AND IS EVIDENCE OF OUR INNATE INTELLIGENCE. WE LIE IN A CREATIVE, IMAGINATIVE, AND INVENTIVE WAY." ---Dobrica Cosic, Serbian writer, first president of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

:lol:

AuLoNa Wrote:GUYS LETS JUST CLOSE THIS THREAD WITH A QUOTE WRITTEN BY A SERB ABOUT SERBS!

Quote:"LYING IS A FORM OF OUR PATRIOTISM AND IS EVIDENCE OF OUR INNATE INTELLIGENCE. WE LIE IN A CREATIVE, IMAGINATIVE, AND INVENTIVE WAY." ---Dobrica Cosic, Serbian writer, first president of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

:lol:

AuLona tell them this is one other evidenc! :lol:

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