SiD Wrote:Well you can debate the whole century how ligal is Israel with muslim states.
And? Do you recognise the state of Israel? Does UN do? End of Story.
I don't see a room for any debate.
SiD Wrote:International law is in force, yes but it was shown in Kosovo and Iraq (Were there any WMDs in Iraq how US claimed) that some are placing themselves above the law it they want.
We must leave WMD to peace. WE cannot move on otherwise.
Once again, Russia is not completely blameless in its actions in Chechnya, but continuing this way is wrong and let;s keep to the civilized world's rules and laws and do not generalise the isolated incidents and try to pass them as a rule of thumb.
SiD Wrote:Wenn Georgia left Soviet Union (they were promitted to leave peacefully) South Osetia doesnt wanted to be part of Georgia they had referendum and majority woted for independence, Tbilisy answered with military force. Well you can read if you want about whole affair point is that Russia helped Georgia to maintain its integrity but become unnaficial protector of peoples of S Osetia and Abchasia.
Looks like unfair position from us to defend territories that official are parts of other states but they never wanted to be with Georgia we only cept peace. And did it for more than 10 years.
We do not try to punish Georgia for Kosovo i am only saing that we warned everyone that frozen conflicts could escalate becouse of this. Saakashvili , boldened by US, assumed that he can solve Internal problems of Georgia by military force, instead of diplomacy.
I know Georgian History , especially of recent years nearly perfectly.
You have some misleading statements, doenst matter whether they are deliberate or not.
When Georgia was recognised by UN as a sovereogn state, it was recognised with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. They instigated wars, by demanding independence, and causing insurgencies, Georgia reacted in different ways. In Abkhazia Georgia entered its Military units to Control Railway passage as it was robbed frequently, however our Chieff of Guardia got involve d in an armed clash because of Abkhazians attacking him. This guy is hiding in Moscow nowadays.
Neither South Ossetian, nor Abkhazuan referendum was legal. In fact, if we view the whole issue from LEgal point of view, there is no Sout Ossetia as such, It was abolished after Soviet Break up, because it was created by Soviets in the firts place, after occupying Georgia in 1921.
Can you show me when and where South Ossetia existed before 1921? No, you wont be able to.
Abkhazia. A bit different story, in 1918, ABkhaz Province asked Georgia to protect it, Guess from what threat? the Russian White Army. We have an agreement, pefectly legal, stating the Abkhaz are protected by Georgia, are part of Georgia and will have only a status of Autonomous Republic within Georgia.
After USSR was created, or just before that, Abkhaz leaders were asked again - Would they prefer to be a part of Russia or part of Georgia. and Votes for joining Georgia won by a landslide.
So, there is not much point in turning the history wheel back, expelled Georgians (350,000) from Abkhazia will not legitimate ANY Referendums, especially if its not authorised by Georgian Givernment and allowed by UN.
I understand Russia could not react to Kosovo INcident and threatened Europe and US it would do something in responce in GEorgia, But it isnt the answer. Georgia is a hostage of situation and has no interference in Russia's losing the Kosovo Deal.
I am sorry, but Russia needs to start resolving its own problems without harassing and blackmailing its small Neighbours.