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Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-08-2008 Shopenhauer Wrote:AuLoNa Wrote:Romel Wrote:Am reading this and .... :evil: Aulona will not answer to you so quikly...belive me..I had a similare problem. And myt english is werry bad, too Pozdrav Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-08-2008 Quote:When Milosevic apear in power around 1985, he ordered hundreds of churches to be built in Republik of Kosovo to pruve serb existence And serbs are nazists? you talking about serbian nacionalizm? :roll: Re: Kosovo's independence... - AuLoNa - 03-08-2008 Guest Wrote:. Minority - in Serbia: Albanians about 2 000 000 and rising, Hungarians 466 800, Bosniaks 151 780, Romas 139 200, Croats 46 200, Slovaks about 50 000, Czehs about 33 000, Romanians about 30 000, Bulgarians about 20 000, Chinees 25 000, Ukraninians about 10 000, Russians about 10 000, Turks about 10 000, Jews 5 000, Greeks about 4 500, Germans 2 000. Minority - In tolerant Albania: Used to be 300 000 Turks, now 20 000, rest dead or flied to Turkey, Used to be 250 000 Greeks, now Non (forced to change their names to albanian names), used to be unkwnon nuber of Romas, now non. Used to be 50 000 Serbs, now non (died, flied during Enver Hodza period of ethnic tolerance and forced to change names), Jews used to be 50 000, died during Great Albania period of racial tolerance in WW II (I am a Jew, my gradfather was hanged in square in Valona). Ethnic structure in Srbian province of Kosovo and Metohia up tu 1999. Abanians about 1 580 000, Serbs 333 000, Romas 80 000, turks 45 000, Gorans 45 000, Bosniaks 40 000, Croats 6 000, Present ethnic structure of virtuel, supertolerant United Emirates of Kosovo, 2007: 1 880 000 gues who?, 110 000 gues who? Romas 10 000, Turks 7 000, Gorans 40 000, Bosniaks, 10 000, Croats 180 or less. There are only 3 places on the world, where ethnic cleansing was sucessfull, unpunished and revarded are: Croatia, Serbian repubilc in Bosnia and Kosovo. And something about serbian nazi in WW 2! One million serbs died figthing nazi invaders and their allys. How many million albanians died fighting nazis? 12 000 !!! How many Albanians died fighting Serbian. Albanian Greek and Macedonian Partizans? 80 000 !!! And something about crime in Europe. Every 5th car on the Kosovo roads is stolen somewhere in western Europe. You can go of the web pages on any state police in europe and see lists of most wanted criminals. There are 40 000 albainians in jails around europe, sentenced fpr murders, drugs, robbering, human trafficing, ilegal gun trading. And about 15 000 albanians on the wanted lists for the simmilar crimes. Kosovo's economy and independenceis based on crime. Serbians had Arkan, Arkan is dead and whole his gang. Albanian Arkan has name Hasim Taci, nickname Snake, he is prime minister of some provisorium of tolerance called Kosovo. Nobody on Kosovo cant say NO to him and stay alive!!! And yes we in serbia have a lot of hardcore nationalists, yes we have a lot of supid dumb asses, they are minority in our society but they are to loud so everybody can hear them. Yes we have ours faults, yes we did bad things to others, and we a expect from others to forgive us because they did to us terrible things too. Albanians have all right to rule in Province of Kosovo, but nobody have a right tu tare a part Serbia like Nazi Germany tared appart Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939! PS Sorry on my english, my languages are Franch and Italian Now, i cant wait for Aulona to invent, manufature and present her/his extraordinary brand new historical facts. Hurry up Aulona !!! [/quote] Aulona will not answer to you so quikly...belive me..I had a similare problem. And myt english is werry bad, too Pozdrav[/quote] Really are you sure, have you seen who has been answering here more.. Re: Kosovo's independence... - AuLoNa - 03-08-2008 Guys you are the destruction of yourselves. So get with reality and put the myths behind before is too late.. Quote:Serb PM resigns blaming divided coalition Quote:Kosovo's Not the Real Failed State Re: Kosovo's independence... - Ana Vasovic - 03-08-2008 My dear neighbours,lets talk about history.It is amazing.I am first time here and didn't have time to read every letter so please forgive me if i am repeating someone.serbs setlled on balkanian semiisland from second to 7th century as strongest group of slovenian ppl.In that time Balkan was part of Roman and later Bizantyne impery.Ppl who lived there were ilirian but Balkan was cruel place so it wasn't so much crowded...thats why slovenian came here.Ilirian lived on teritory of today croatia,slovenia,macedonia and bosnia as well as on serbian teritry...Most of our nations are maden from mixing between us...Part of ilirians were Arbanasis...There is no evidence that Dardania which wasn't state but was provincy of bizantine impery was in any connection with Arbanases.Ppl who were original dardanians were wild group of pl who lived in caves and had very bad smell and its root of greek word they get name as group of ppl.But they were not Arbanasis ...or slovenians...Anyway Kosovo which is cause of trouble for some ppl today was under Roman,Bizantyne and Otoman impery and after crush of all of them they belong to Serbian state...So it can be Italian,Greek,Turkish or Serbian....It never was under Albanian state ot it never was state by itself or it never was state of Albanian ppl till now. That is a fact... I must go to some party so i have no time to write further for now...but i am very very interested in subject and i want to talk...of course with ppl who knows something from history Re: Kosovo's independence... - TEUTA - 03-08-2008 In Balcan wars 1912-1913 Albanians fought together with Turks, on Turkish side. In WWII with nacist..it is common hystory fact. Quote:Excerpts from “Albanian Nazi troops in WW2 Launched a Wide Spread Terror Against Kosovo Serbs”and so on.. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.michaelsavage.com/kosovo-genocide.html">http://www.michaelsavage.com/kosovo-genocide.html</a><!-- m --> But in 1999.genocid under Serbs was supported by NATO because of Bondsteel base.. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.michaelsavage.com/serb-beheading-2.jpg">http://www.michaelsavage.com/serb-beheading-2.jpg</a><!-- m --> The Albanian in the middle is Sadik Chuflaj, a member of the KLA from the Decani area. The young man to his left is his son Valon Chuflaj, born in April 1981 in the village of Prilep, municipality of Decani. He has an UNMIK identity card and is now a member of the Kosovo Protection Corps with the rank of lieutenant. He works in the inspector's office in Pec. UNMIK has taken disciplinary measures against him on two occasions. after cross-checking, our reporters were led to the assumption that the visible human head on the right is the head of Bojan Cvetkovic, born in Nis in 1972. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.760kfmb.com/personalities/savage.php">http://www.760kfmb.com/personalities/savage.php</a><!-- m --> Re: Kosovo's independence... - PETER - 03-08-2008 Well this topic is getting out of context. I would really appreciate if you people of balkan countries trying to find what's wrong with your national politics or politicians and condemn crimes aflicted by your fellow citizens. Otherwise you would end accussing each other without any result and criminals would stay free without been punished, like they are now in Serbia. I would really suggest to serbians do not post anything about crimes, becuase simple you don't have right to do this as nation taking into consideration wars in balkan 1912, WWII and 1990. Instead of talking about crimes serbians first need to apologise to Croatians, Bosniaks and Albanians for crimes commited against them. For crimes commited by serbians it's no need to put link here. I'ts very simple to find materials about serbian crimes just google "serbian+crimes" you would find thousand of official document and images proving what you are looking for. Re: Kosovo's independence... - fim - 03-09-2008 I think you are right Peter, but it's dificult with serbs as a nighbour, because they have old tradition emotionaly cinism and hatred, actualy they can talk day and night a diferent story, and lot's of lies... and only one you will unerstand from begining to the end "they just want it a piece of kake" it does not mater if they deserve are who belonge that kake to... newer ending talking serbs with that unamoral caracter they will just grab it and clime it and say it was our...! :o It is wery interesting that in serbia the students education it's wery exgagerated in ultranationalisme an based on kind of antiwestern interduction, which may led them allways in confrontation against reality of the future, that mean enything they trye abroad, they may shoot thim self on fut! One other Dictator is trying to hide... the one who ordered it's people to terrorise western ambasies shops and Mc.donald restorants PM.Kostunica is resigning and trye to liv the work to others so he ken hide himself are being forgoten after all the truble i have cause to hes people puting on strets! The map is from rusia original unmodified, and i vill bring som map's the turks have publish last year about balkans. Re: Kosovo's independence... - shumadija - 03-09-2008 I can see its albaninas who published that map...O I have some maps for you my friend...and You wouldnt like them... Re: Kosovo's independence... - 2LR5S1IA - 03-09-2008 No independence for Kosovo and Metohija No bay low no bay hystori no bay moral,only bay American intarese for BONDSTIL. Re: Kosovo's independence... - Independent - 03-09-2008 maja Wrote:And school was free, too. For everybody in SFRJ. So, what rights they (albanian) dont have in Serbia, in SFRJ? I will fullfill AuLoNa, even she is very literate and informed well, every person that was living in SFRJ, and is considering in the group of people called "normal" knows that from 1981, all public schools and institutions were "tranformed" in political stick, and late 1989, it was not possible to study in Albanian language, please don't lie yourself and public. And about the rights, please read something out of the strict lines of public political expresion of Serbian Goverment, the Albanians have been treated as animals. And in the end, please understand, we ALBANIANS, don't want to leave with the same cage with the BEAST, which in the end you are covering more and more hiden parts of real face, and I am glad that European heads of politics react in the end. Re: Kosovo's independence... - Naim Dibrani - 03-09-2008 Tito Wrote:Kosovo is a Serbian territory with historical Serbian cultural memorials. Now there is continued eradication of Serbian culture and religion in Kosovo. Serbian population in Kosovo is being terrorized and is forced to run away from their homes.Ti koke cirkuz. Re: Kosovo's independence... - fim - 03-09-2008 Naim Dibrani Wrote:Yes Mr.Dibrani, I was thinking too, this guy is kind of Circus-clavn! :lol:Tito Wrote:Kosovo is a Serbian territory with historical Serbian cultural memorials. Now there is continued eradication of Serbian culture and religion in Kosovo. Serbian population in Kosovo is being terrorized and is forced to run away from their homes.Ti koke cirkuz. Re: Kosovo's independence... - Liridon from tetovo ,macedonia - 03-09-2008 First of all kosowo allways have ben albanian teritory you should check the history bock the barbarians tribes ariwe to balcan to the 7 century with the word barbarians i meen (serbs,macedonians,) now just think about that albanian are in balcan since the excsitenc of the human being soo sory to disapoint you but thats the truth you need to go back were you came from ( RUSIA) Re: Kosovo's independence... - fim - 03-09-2008 See here my dear, ewerything in cordination and withing will of it's people.., this is results of EU and USA a mision for beter future, and it's sukses! Gud bles USA, NATO, EU the Mr.Bill Clinton, Mr.Clark and all airlight who suported with open nind the Republik of Kosovo for freedom and pice in the region! Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-10-2008 Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B. I can not describe how hurted I am about lies that I red on this forum.Some "historical facts" are incredable, and i have no attention to discuss them. ONe thing more... I am also seek of attitudes of people in Europe who have never been in Serbia and know nothing about its history and real maners. It is very insulting when they describe you like killers, animals, monsters...Our only mistake was we were blind and naive to expect such destiny, so we reacted unprepared,impulsive, angry and with hurted pride what marked us like agresive nation. Now, I hope this story will end, and that you will at last, after you took awey everything of this people - land, pride, dignity, whole generations of young people - leave us alone to try to live again. Our children have tears too... I wish to all long, helthy life. Re: Kosovo's independence... - AuLoNa - 03-10-2008 Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B. I think you should read more history, and I do not say this just as an Albanian, to show that the land belongs only to me, it belongs to the whole human race, we have all made the history in this planet called earth. But the most funny part is when the most oldest people in Balkans that are the Albanias, to be denied their own history, and to be vanished by some who want to show that they were superior, well I am sorry, no one will let that happen. Yes you guys made your own history to the Balkan peninsula, we cannot deny that you came there in 6-7 AD, but history fortunately does not start there. Also I have said that over and over again, that Dardania(kosova) was given the independence more on the human right bases. I think that Serbs right now are refusing themselves to be civilized. That's what we always wanted peace, prosperity, and happiness for everyone, where they all belong. To the rest of the forumers here that have no clue about real history or try to hide it, I pity you, for being afraid to admit human history, for some nationalistic views. Albanian people are patriotic, fight for what is theirs, never nationalists, which fight for other peoples lands. Re: Kosovo's independence... - fim - 03-10-2008 Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B.[b]Wooow I see you surender just like that..., after all thos atrocities you you comited with in decades, not one time, not two time, but hundreds of time your evil ultranationalism have atack nighbouring countries murdering, torturing, canibalism, genocid, burn and destroy ass one godbye to them, because if they was yours..., you would not do that! As for your "historical facts" the rest of the world have "facts" about your country lot more than your country does, at least this international "facts" are not thos made by serbs "air-blown-facts". Till few weeks a go you were sparking like a dying-donky around the borders and western ambasies with terrorism and your "naiv-kind" trye to bring the world in conflict..., but anyway the international comunity is not that you thoght you will full them..., shamn on you serb-ultranationalist where in the latest protests stil was reising three finger(faschisht-sign). Nobaddy have take land of you, but you are bad-guy and bad educated living with the past barbarik-heroism from the mountines throwing granades down on vilagers..., than you come and tell us here your kind of "pride and dignity :evil: "! Your kind of "pride and dignity" is it that special one, when your serb-paramilitar was filling up frigo-trucks with human boddyes and heading for belgrad..., it sem you solwed economy problem and you were not stoping at all, but I wonder, did you trye a piece of that.., hey milojko, how does it like diagesting human boddye :evil: , kan you tell us.., when you are in such position to tell us about your "facts, dignity and pride"! :o And then you stil hoppe that international comunity will let you have one other ride in Republik of Kosovo for one other luting food and alcohol with human met from childring served in your table and sing patriotik sang for your su... pride and dignity :!: Re: Kosovo's independence... - niko - 03-10-2008 TO AuLoNa I am not from Serbia, but never mind. But I realy wonder are you just pretending or you are realy hermafrodite? Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-10-2008 fim Wrote:It is unbeleiveable how you describe yourselves better than anyone can...Just keep on, in any way , , I this was not a post for albanians, I just can not aloud my self to talk with someone such evel.Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B.[b]Wooow I see you surender just like that..., after all thos atrocities you you comited with in decades, not one time, not two time, but hundreds of time your evil ultranationalism have atack nighbouring countries murdering, torturing, canibalism, genocid, burn and destroy ass one godbye to them, because if they was yours..., you would not do that! Re: Kosovo's independence... - hashimoto - 03-10-2008 Maybe destroying the holy cross is "normal"?? <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc</a><!-- m --> - at 02.15 So, albanians are pacefull, christian people?? hmm Re: Kosovo's independence... - Indenpenden - 03-10-2008 ShOrTcut Wrote:treba mi dobrovoljac, da mi prevede tekst na engleski, da kazem i ja koju ovoj kuchki shiptarskoj... Kome da kazes ti nesto, jel mislis da imate nesto da kazete ZIVOTINJE SREDNJEG VEKA, mislili se da mozete sve da postignite silom ???!!!!. Najbolji ste kad imate na ruku neki narod sto nema uopste, ili sasvim malo naoruzanje, onda koje heroje proizvedite vi !!!. Isto kao i klise "Kosovo Polje", i onda na 200 godine to ponavljate, djubretine. Nego i vi Srbi, gde hodate gradite crkve, da onda da upotrebljate kad hocete nesto da postignite kroz historiju, isto kao konj sto jede i ostavlja nesto pozadi !!!. Da ti kazem nesto na kraju, ja bi voleo da posle 10 godina, kad i Kosova ce imati vojsku koju treba da ima, onda na nasu srecu da inicirate i provocirati nesto na kome ste najbolji, vidicete kako dobro plivate prema Kaspickom. I na kraju ako mislite da mozete opet sa vojskom u Kosova, samo napred, mi vas cekamo, lol. P.S Svi narodi zemlje se demokratizuju i idu napred prema modernizaciju, samo vi idete prema korenima vasim. Hello to AuLona, which is the best here. Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-10-2008 Independent Wrote:maja Wrote:And school was free, too. For everybody in SFRJ. So, what rights they (albanian) dont have in Serbia, in SFRJ? Indipendent, da ti kazem nesto, posto vidim da odlicno znas srpski... Prvo, od 1989. niko nije branio da idete u skolu, fakultet, i sl. na svom jeziku, ali vi niste zeleli da radite po programima Republike Srbije, ciji ste deo. Drugo, Aulona prvo postuje, kako je ovo planeta Zemlja za sve ljude, a zatim, da su Albanci potomci Ilira, i da je ovo vasa zemlja. A ja koliko znam, to da ste potomci Ilira, je pocelo da se javlja u doba Envera Hodze. Tada ste poceli i da dobijate muska imena, poput Ilir, i sl...E sad, odlucite, da li ta zemlja (Balkan), istorijski pripada samo vama, ili je za sve ljude sveta. Mislim, ako pripada Albancima, ajmo onda da oteramo Amerikance iz SAD....zaboga, pa oni su dosli u Ameriku tek u XV veku...mnogo kasnije nego Sloveni na Balkan, zar ne? I poslednje, ali ne i najmanje vazno: Srbi NISU nikakve zveri...jer, da je tako, zasto bi, posle bombardovanja, u Srbiju dosli i momci, ciji je otac bio Albanac, a majka Srpkinja???? Veruj mi, licno ih znam. Re: Kosovo's independence... - A4u - 03-10-2008 fim Wrote:Evil serbs, eeak kanibals!Guest Wrote:Time will show to Europe how peacefull and nice are most of Albanians. I can not say anything else because Serbian people is satanized with cruel propaganda and politic`s of some mad minority. Just hope you will give a chance to each side, but Kosovo independence was best of worsest solutions. It will not bring nothing good, so I hope the Europe have a plan B.[b]Wooow I see you surender just like that..., after all thos atrocities you you comited with in decades, not one time, not two time, but hundreds of time your evil ultranationalism have atack nighbouring countries murdering, torturing, canibalism, genocid, burn and destroy ass one godbye to them, because if they was yours..., you would not do that! Re: Kosovo's independence... - Guest - 03-10-2008 D, i dopuna...gde prodjemo, mi ostavljamo crkve, vi dzamije...isto je, zar ne? I ok, mi cemo nekako 'doplivati' do Kaspijskog.....al odmah posle toga Ameri da 'preplivaju' do Evrope...odavde su potekli, zar nisu? Budi iskren, ok? |