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Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-17-2008
the thing is,that its quite a difficult thing for a European,to tell bombed Tshinvally from bombed Gori.Thats why we cant treat this video as a proof of any position)
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Eka - 08-17-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:the thing is,that its quite a difficult thing for a European,to tell bombed Tshinvally from bombed Gori.Thats why we cant treat this video as a proof of any position)Same difficault is for us to proof from here truth about MAdrid Station bombing and bask sepatrists story.
I forget basks sepatarizm in Spain. There is same situation as in osethia. So Spains time will came too. Basks will say to them we want to as kosovo and rusians will help them.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-17-2008
I think we can discuss that later.
I have a question for you:in case those people in South Osetia are osetins by their nationality and russians by passport,then does Georgia have at least any relation with them?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - SiD - 08-17-2008
Eka Wrote:expolozians in metro and in residental buildings in moscow , beslan, Theatre,from which Chechnia war starts and pUtins " glory" begins! yes this is ment by MAriam I suppose!!!!
You will claim that Bush was involved in terract of 11th september as well? (He used it to justify US operetion in Afganistan). Eka do you understand what nonsense are you telling?
Eka Wrote:YOU ARE REALL KGB AGENT!!!
I feel it!!!!
Well no comments
KGB spys are EVERYTHERE :lol: .
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Steven - 08-18-2008
the movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" points to the fact that Bush was involved in the terrorist act of September 11.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Lenus - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:I think we can discuss that later.
I have a question for you:in case those people in South Osetia are osetins by their nationality and russians by passport,then does Georgia have at least any relation with them?
Please don't forget that SO alays has been a part of Georgia. Their Autonomy has been created bu Communists after invading the country.
Moreover, SO is not settled by Ethnic Osetians only. Georgians prevail in numbers. Or they used to do.
Hence, the Land and People has more common to Georgia than to any other country.
Also, let's not get confused by Names Similarity (South Ossetia, North Ossetia). These republics have bnever ever been a unified state, and in fact the South Ossetians are of different tribe OSetians (Kudars) while North ossetians are etirely DIfferent (Two more separate sub-ethnic groups).
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Mariam - 08-18-2008
Horrible pictures of the war. Sorry, but I think you have to see them.
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Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-18-2008
ahahaha,Lenus,you try to fool us,expecting we don't know the history of your country,and you keep repeating,that SO has always been part of Georgia,and it definitely was.....for a year!!Geargia and Osetia were separate till 1801,when they were included to the structure of Russian Empire,century later,in 1917 Geargia and SO were separated by the government of menshiviki(rivals of bolseviki),but in a year Osetians started the struggle for independance from Georgia(so this war lasts for a century already!)/In 1921 it became The South Osetian autonomous region/Georgians and Osetins aren't even relatively nations,they have their own language,traditions,and their land.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Eka - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:ahahaha,Lenus,you try to fool us,expecting we don't know the history of your country,and you keep repeating,that SO has always been part of Georgia,and it definitely was.....for a year!!Geargia and Osetia were separate till 1801,when they were included to the structure of Russian Empire,century later,in 1917 Geargia and SO were separated by the government of menshiviki(rivals of bolseviki),but in a year Osetians started the struggle for independance from Georgia(so this war lasts for a century already!)/In 1921 it became The South Osetian autonomous region/Georgians and Osetins aren't even relatively nations,they have their own language,traditions,and their land.<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country</a><!-- m -->)
See maps and soon I will try to provide you with another sources.
Who was teaching you history and what marks do you have?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Lenus - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:ahahaha,Lenus,you try to fool us,expecting we don't know the history of your country,and you keep repeating,that SO has always been part of Georgia,and it definitely was.....for a year!!Geargia and Osetia were separate till 1801,when they were included to the structure of Russian Empire,century later,in 1917 Geargia and SO were separated by the government of menshiviki(rivals of bolseviki),but in a year Osetians started the struggle for independance from Georgia(so this war lasts for a century already!)/In 1921 it became The South Osetian autonomous region/Georgians and Osetins aren't even relatively nations,they have their own language,traditions,and their land.
Lo Siento para preguntar, es usted Espanol de verdad? Como es possible que ud piensa como en el Ruso, lo mismo informacia, lo mismo critica?
Si Ud Sabe historia bien, Yo me gusto mucho tener discussion sobre la subjeto.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Frederic - 08-18-2008
Dear Vitium,
I think you should have knowns that what is now South Ossetia, was historical Georgian principality, where Ossetians found shelter from Mongol invaders. The notion of South Ossetia and North Ossetia has appeared only during the Soviet period in order to create and impression that this two regions were parts of the one whole. If you dont know the history, baybe you know the geography. Even geographically North and South Ossetia has nothing in common, they are separated by huge mountines. Connection between these regions was created only in 1978, when Soviet government decided to build roki tunnel. I think they had long term plans then.
Finally, be so kind to expalin me what in common do you have with Chechens, Ingushs, Ossetians or other Caucasuians nations, whom you are "defending" so brutally. "Defending" with bombs and bloody masacres.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-18-2008
ahaha,nice try,but actually Barcelona is the capital of Catalunia,this is my first language,which you won't find in web-translators,my darling1now tell me,who has created that page on wiki..maybe you?!)
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-18-2008
2 Frederic
the fact that South and North Osetians are not related,doesn't mean that they are related with Georgians.thank you.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Lenus - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:ahaha,nice try,but actually Barcelona is the capital of Catalunia,this is my first language,which you won't find in web-translators,my darling1now tell me,who has created that page on wiki..maybe you?!)
Puede Ud Respondar o no?
Es Usted de Barcelona? Que es la calle mas preciosa en el Barcelona?
Y como es la palabra "CALLE" en Catalan?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Mariam - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:ahaha,nice try,but actually Barcelona is the capital of Catalunia,this is my first language,which you won't find in web-translators,my darling1now tell me,who has created that page on wiki..maybe you?!)
mojet bit tebe luchshe pisat na radnom iazike? :haha
TO Lenus,
Leave him ;-)
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Nana Chapidze - 08-18-2008
Alenika Wrote:Telling of truth and lie...
Do you know which country realy help osetin people with meals, water and so on in first days of the war? Georgia did? Or US? Or EU?
No, Russia did. Russia provide South osetia with water, bread, clothing. Russia repairs electricity, tries to reconstruct social building, and build for osetin people infrastructure where would be possible to live.
Question, why georgian government doesn't want to do the same?
Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Eka - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:ahaha,nice try,but actually Barcelona is the capital of Catalunia,this is my first language,which you won't find in web-translators,my darling1now tell me,who has created that page on wiki..maybe you?!)Bros durachitsa oficer!
Ne vidat vam Sida kartli kak svoix uSei!
Wiki is first thing I can find but what about question do you learn history and Georgaphi in FSB school or no?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Lenus - 08-18-2008
Vitium
Its ok, whoever you are.
IF you respect yourself and consider yourself a man, Present here at least one map where South Ossetia does not belong to Georgia.
Do you know what year S.O. has been created????
So territory is our, if you or they claim they have nothing to do with us, take tvem to North Ossetia, there is nothing like a compulsary citizenship in Georgian Constitution. Its a free country.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Eka - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:2 FredericRally Russian logic . Noone in Spain and especially in catalonia will be so unlogic and funny with his statements. They know hat is sepatarism.
the fact that South and North Osetians are not related,doesn't mean that they are related with Georgians.thank you.
Look at the maps.It is not only from wiki but your history textbooks.
Frederic is correrct on 100%.
Roci channel was bild during communizm easr with longlasting amitions of communists to wash brains to there people.
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Vitiumm - 08-18-2008
))))funny,no really!!haven't ever seen so many mistakes in 3 sentencies!it is called "bosh"))
you're interested in the personality,not in facts;your excessive familiarity towards the people here shows your stupidity.
by the way:russians don't speak georgian,but you do speak russian-now tell me who depends on whom?!))
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Eka - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:))))funny,no really!!haven't ever seen so many mistakes in 3 sentencies!it is called "bosh"))We speek language we need to know. and many russians in this country were living during tenth years and can not even speak one word in Georgian.
you're interested in the personality,not in facts;your excessive familiarity towards the people here shows your stupidity.
by the way:russians don't speak georgian,but you do speak russian-now tell me who depends on whom?!))
Mistakes are not so important. Much more important is that we are undrstanding each other or no? Then way are you so furios if you dont undrstand me because of mistakes?
one point is right in your post - not personalities must be attecked but ideas! I catch your idea?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Mariam - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:))))funny,no really!!haven't ever seen so many mistakes in 3 sentencies!it is called "bosh"))
you're interested in the personality,not in facts;your excessive familiarity towards the people here shows your stupidity.
by the way:russians don't speak georgian,but you do speak russian-now tell me who depends on whom?!))
VITINKA (kakie strannie imina u vas, putinka, vitinka, i.d.) I speak in Russian, in English, a little in Greece, My president knows 6 or 7 language, in moy country people know at leas 2-3- language. So It mainly shows YOUR STUPIDITY, saying that this means you are defendent on someone. TO know DURAK, it reflecst about the development of society. BUt for persons like you it is not clear. DURALEI :haha
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Terry - 08-18-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:))))funny,no really!!haven't ever seen so many mistakes in 3 sentencies!it is called "bosh"))
you're interested in the personality,not in facts;your excessive familiarity towards the people here shows your stupidity.
by the way:russians don't speak georgian,but you do speak russian-now tell me who depends on whom?!))
You're judging incorrectly Vutiumm. You can't assess one's level of stupidity or cleverness after the mistakes made in a sentence. Do you speak Danish? No? Well I do! Should I say you're stupid?
Re: truth & lie in today's war - Karl.in.eu - 08-29-2008
Vitiumm Wrote:))))funny,no really!!haven't ever seen so many mistakes in 3 sentencies!it is called "bosh"))
you're interested in the personality,not in facts;your excessive familiarity towards the people here shows your stupidity.
by the way:russians don't speak georgian,but you do speak russian-now tell me who depends on whom?!))
This means that Georgian are smarter, by knowing two languages at a time, and as I see English too. And you recognized that Russians lack of foreign language knowledge.
Poor you.. :haha :haha :haha
Re: truth & lie in today's war - lashachochua - 08-29-2008
Dear Friends, I just want to ask you not to comment bullshit.....I have read all these comments and could not manage to understand why this brain hitted people are debating....They can watch russian TV channels....They will be satisfied with that.........