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Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - SiD - 08-21-2008
Lor Wrote:You're right!! There is NO American tree, but NO Russian one either!! CONCLUSION!! These countries chose their path on their OWN!!!
Some paths lead to nothing good. If you see path that will lead you to end of mauntain you wont go ther. They are not blind kittens. Same goes for EU and US. NATO is dengerously big. You eager to give every country an ability to drag nuclear states into thier conflicts. It is path to no good. And NATO will just once do not protect them or will start war you and everyone else will newer forget, if even someone will be left to remember.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Terry - 08-22-2008
[quote="SiD" You eager to give every country an ability to drag nuclear states into thier conflicts. It is path to no good. [/quote]
Good point
uper I am backing neither USA nor Russia. I want small countries to solve their conflicts by their own. Otherwise, there is danger that a 3rd world war is unleashed.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Lenus - 08-27-2008
If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - SiD - 08-27-2008
Lenus Wrote:If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
Georgia ceased to exist? did i miss something?
:lol:
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - lashachochua - 08-27-2008
SiD Wrote:Lenus Wrote:If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
Georgia ceased to exist? did i miss something?
:lol:
Yes SiD, are you happy? :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha
By the way what are you doing here? :banghead
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Terry - 08-28-2008
why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - SiD - 08-28-2008
Terry Wrote:why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
I think Lenus meant that Russia will destroy, annihilate,devastate, nuke and after all that enslave them.
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Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - PATKO - 08-28-2008
There are over 10.000.000 Rusians living in Ukraine.
They don`t want any kind of ocupation!
Especially American plaything!
America is provoking WW3. :evil:
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - clearman - 08-28-2008
Ukraine and Georgia have one chance: to join NATO! :evil
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - PATKO - 08-28-2008
And what then?
I don`t understand! If America wants `world peace`, why are they provoking Russia??? :banghead
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - clearman - 08-28-2008
Russians, why are you provoking the world? Georgia and Ukraina are free countries. :evil:
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - PATKO - 08-28-2008
Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - clearman - 08-28-2008
PATKO, I think you are under Russian propaganda influence! :geek:
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - PATKO - 08-28-2008
No! I`m not!
But you are under `western` propaganda!
How you explain that `EU-USA` jurnalists were in Georgia, during conflict in Osetia???
How could they report about events in Osetia??? :banghead
And why they didn`t reported when Georgia attacked??? Nooo they started reporting after Russia RETORTED!!! :evil
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - IamGEORGIA - 08-28-2008
Already joined it.. :-)
I think soon it will be announced formally..
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - clearman - 08-28-2008
I don't like Americans and I don't like Russians and their hegemonic foreign policies.
I don't like separatists like Kosovars, Ossetians, Abhazians....and their leaders business!
We don't need wars for nothing! :evil
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Benn - 08-28-2008
PATKO Wrote:There are over 10.000.000 Rusians living in Ukraine.
They don`t want any kind of ocupation!
Especially American plaything!
America is provoking WW3. :evil:
The Ukrainian government won't take into consideration the opinion of those 10,000,000 pro-Russians living in Ukraine. The Ukrainian population is divided into two parts: first (mostly the western part) wants to be the USA's ally, another (eastern part) - Russia's.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Lenus - 08-29-2008
SiD Wrote:Terry Wrote:why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
I think Lenus meant that Russia will destroy, annihilate,devastate, nuke and after all that enslave them.
Exactly! Nuking is impossible, Georgia is so small, that Turkey ay get touched, Russia itself, and what it used to be called Abhazia and S.O...
So only chance to survive is to Join Nato.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Hakan G - 08-29-2008
PATKO Wrote:Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Nicholas - 08-29-2008
Hakan G Wrote:PATKO Wrote:Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.
for you 2000 dead people don't mean a thing yeah?
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - PATKO - 08-29-2008
[quoteHakan G]There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.[/quote]
Sakasvili will end in the prison, where he belongs...for genocide made on his own people! :evil:
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Hakan G - 08-29-2008
So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - SiD - 08-29-2008
Hakan G Wrote:So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all.S Osetai WAS part of georgia so it means that Saakashvili ordered to attack his own people, i think this is logickal.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - Hakan G - 08-29-2008
SiD Wrote:Hakan G Wrote:So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all.S Osetai WAS part of georgia so it means that Saakashvili ordered to attack his own people, i think this is logickal.
Could you please make up your mind once again?
You said that Russia got in Ossetia because it was defending its citizens, now you're saying Ossetia somehow belongs to Georgia and is in fact its territory.. This is getting hilarious.
Re: Should the Ukraine join NATO? - SiD - 08-29-2008
Hakan G Wrote:Could you please make up your mind once again?Well ask Saakashvili or Bush is S Osetia part of georgia? What would they tell?
You said that Russia got in Ossetia because it was defending its citizens, now you're saying Ossetia somehow belongs to Georgia and is in fact its territory.. This is getting hilarious.
So if you attack Tzchinvali recognizing this city as yours you attack your own people, isnt that right?
Not every inhabbitant os S Osetia is russian citizen you know. Not to mention that russian peacekeepers "could" be russian cityzens.