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Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Steven - 03-21-2009
If you were a director of a famous and rich company, would you retire if one of your employees warned against, for example, burning himself? If you wouldn't then the police could initiate a crime case against you, if he burns himself. As for Saakashvili... it could be the same, yet, he's a president and he's got more power.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Newrussian town - 03-24-2009
Benn Wrote:Wow, I haven't heard of that tradition. But... I guess it was something very symbolic. Actually they couldn't rebuild what they had destroyed so they must have become life prisoners in Russia.No they had worked for a few years, Russians in their history, belive you or not, had never had slaves. exept Russians as a peasants.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Iordan - 04-01-2009
Mata Hari Wrote:I've never seen such a wicked people during my 18 years like in this forum!! u guys have so much toxic in ur soul, after such posts how can a world would ever see peace?! of course never, becouse ppl like them always will exist!!
Of course, there are not any hope that world will be better. Not Even Obama will be able to change direction of policy the most powerful country. In particular to this theme what could be changed by truth on august events?
Nothing can be changed
And
I am sure that The EU and U.S.A. were informed about Georgian’s assault plan
I think that after breaking up the Soviet Union U.S.A. could become a leader for all world but it didn’t occur
Because a basic principle of U.S.A policy is force but not justice
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Laurentine - 04-02-2009
Quote:I am sure that The EU and U.S.A. were informed about Georgian’s assault plan
I really doubt. How is that possible? I mean everybody was surprised to hear those news. Moreover, EU and USA knew very well that once Georgians attacked Ossetia, Russia won't be just staying and doing nothing. So you're saying the war was expected by EU and USA?
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Well-wisher - 04-13-2009
Scanning the political horizon in Georgian Republic now, I come to conclusion that the days of Saakashvili’s ruling are numbered. Now not only Georgian opposition, but also some representatives of present Georgian authorities consider that recent crushing defeat of oppositional press-center in Tbilisi, in fact, is the next provocation of present power in Georgia! Even such top official of local authorities as Vice-Premier of Georgia, G. Baramidze, is sure that this act of terror has been organized by Saakashvili & Co. And he has publicly named it “a serious crime against the country and its people”.
If even Saakashvili’s coworkers have begun so actively bucking against his anti-democratic policy, if his US friends have turned away from him now, it is time for Europe to hint to current Georgian President that his political service life has also expired. And so he should go away, following his active supporters and aiders, US Republicans!
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Newrussian town - 04-15-2009
Absolutely agree, he is not a president, he is MERCENARY, Did you know that all HIS politics had a wages from USA? And his wife is a citizen of France, he received education in the USA, he is a F...ing agent 007 :haha
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Terry - 04-16-2009
If the opposition leaders really want a government turnover they should firstly attack the governmental mass-media sources. This is in order to prevent brainwashing to people in all over the country.
Second, I don't think Saakashvili dared to attack the oppositional press-center, as his situation is already tough, he wouldn't risk to worsen it. Why would he need to provoke anybody?
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Lenus - 05-01-2009
Newrussian town Wrote:Absolutely agree, he is not a president, he is MERCENARY, Did you know that all HIS politics had a wages from USA? And his wife is a citizen of France, he received education in the USA, he is a F...ing agent 007 :haha
So, the list of an "Agents" qualities are as follows:
1.
Quote:HIS politics had a wages from USA?What do you mean? USA supports Georgian Government, What is the issue? His active opposition leader, Mrs Zurabashvili was paid by the Government of France... Is she an agent too?
2.
Quote:his wife is a citizen of France
Well, she is Dutch, but what's the problem with it? Oh, he should have married a Russian Girsl, called Alyonushka, right? Then we would have got ourselves an honest, non-agent President... perfect.
3.
Quote:he received education in the USA
Dear co-user, are you allright? :mrgreen:
From all these points, you are more agent to me then him... :oO
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Newrussian town - 05-02-2009
May be you see nothing in it but I do. He is a war criminal, and our guys are real heroes. 4 hours before he begun the war, he told on TV that he loves Ossetians, so much, he wants peace negotiations ect. See the film War 080808 (Война 080808). He is a criminal, and when he will not be a president, somebody will shoot him down, for sure. It is an Americans who can hang on the leader of Iraq on a TV show, we Russians can wait.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Lenus - 05-03-2009
Newrussian town Wrote:May be you see nothing in it but I do. He is a war criminal, and our guys are real heroes. 4 hours before he begun the war, he told on TV that he loves Ossetians, so much, he wants peace negotiations ect. See the film War 080808 (Война 080808). He is a criminal, and when he will not be a president, somebody will shoot him down, for sure. It is an Americans who can hang on the leader of Iraq on a TV show, we Russians can wait.
Saakashvili never started the war. Ossetians did.
I keep asking in this topic, and this issue is neglected over and over again:
where are the 2,000 bodies of mass massacred Ossetians, for which the Russians started attacking Georgia?
Nowhere.
So, here is the whole truth:
Russia is not very happy with Georgia being an ally with the West and tries to teach us the lesson: First, they arranged that Ossetians shoot at Georgian villages, then deny all the responsibliity for them, (In the Peacekeeping General Kulakhmetov's words: Kokoity is out of our Control, do what you have to do), Georgian Responces, attacks Tskinvali three times, pacifies them three times and withdraws (!!) troops three times, until it was obvious that Kokoity woucl never stop.
Then, Georgian took over the control of Tskinvali. Withouth much problems.
And it was Russians, who annihilated this city with bombs, in order to recapture it from Georgians.
The real heros are the Georgians. Not many nations in the world dares fighting Russians. The War is not over yet, and Russia has to withdraw from Georgian land.
We shall see which president will be hung off the rope soon...
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Iordan - 05-20-2009
17 years ago Georgian militants killed 34 refugees(going to North Ossetia) from South Osetia autonomous district(now independent republic) who wanted to flee horror of a war
I don’t have right to write an address of documentary film about Zar tragedy ( Зарская трагедия) because of I don't have enough number of messages
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Iordan - 05-24-2009
Laurentine Wrote:It sounds as something unusual but it really was there.Quote:I am sure that The EU and U.S.A. were informed about Georgian’s assault plan
I really doubt. How is that possible? I mean everybody was surprised to hear those news. Moreover, EU and USA knew very well that once Georgians attacked Ossetia, Russia won't be just staying and doing nothing. So you're saying the war was expected by EU and USA?
Staff of OSE had information about preparation of war but they made nothing. Georgians made entrenchment around capital of Ossetians but It wasn’t observed by those who should stop that building.
Moral is not a main principle of that organization
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Iordan - 05-24-2009
Lenus Wrote:Newrussian town Wrote:May be you see nothing in it but I do. He is a war criminal, and our guys are real heroes. 4 hours before he begun the war, he told on TV that he loves Ossetians, so much, he wants peace negotiations ect. See the film War 080808 (Война 080808). He is a criminal, and when he will not be a president, somebody will shoot him down, for sure. It is an Americans who can hang on the leader of Iraq on a TV show, we Russians can wait.Saakashvili never started the war. Ossetians did.
I keep asking in this topic, and this issue is neglected over and over again:
where are the 2,000 bodies of mass massacred Ossetians, for which the Russians started attacking Georgia?
Nowhere.
.
Of course, Saakashvili have to be nominated for Nobel prize as the most peaceful people around the world :lol: :lol:
Russia started operation against aggressor since they had an agreement under that they had right to stop aggression
May be you forgot but Georgian troops began operation at night bombing sleeping Tskhinval
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Tamara_Georgia Girl - 05-25-2009
Quote:May be you forgot but Georgian troops began operation at night bombing sleeping TskhinvalTHAT IS A SHAME, when already 8 months passed after AUgust war and some people still repeat that BULLSHIT about bombing sleeping Tskhinvali (and not TskhinvaL!) , its proved for now that Kremlin propaganda workd hard to make people belive what an evils georgians were! guys u can search information over net about 2000 ossetians massacre which was a BIG lie and some russians still beileve that georgian troops killed so many peopel there, while only 44 people died over Tskhinvali that period! (HRW report).
the subject of sleeping Tskhinvali is quite obvious wellmade KGB work for mass crowd, when there was no people in that city during wartime (they were fled 2weeks before the begginig of war, and u can find this information too), I don't want to listen such senseless posts, without arguments, just said to play on nerves!
while saying a word about Georgian troops beggining attack, don't forget to mention Ruso_ossetian massacres of georgian civilian over Tskhinvali region!
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - SiD - 05-25-2009
Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:THAT IS A SHAME, when already 8 months passed after AUgust war and some people still repeat that BULLSHIT about bombing sleeping Tskhinvali (and not TskhinvaL!) , its proved for now that Kremlin propaganda workd hard to make people belive what an evils georgians were! guys u can search information over net about 2000 ossetians massacre which was a BIG lie and some russians still beileve that georgian troops killed so many peopel there, while only 44 people died over Tskhinvali that period! (HRW report).
the subject of sleeping Tskhinvali is quite obvious wellmade KGB work for mass crowd, when there was no people in that city during wartime (they were fled 2weeks before the begginig of war, and u can find this information too), I don't want to listen such senseless posts, without arguments, just said to play on nerves!
while saying a word about Georgian troops beggining attack, don't forget to mention Ruso_ossetian massacres of georgian civilian over Tskhinvali region!
You know you could sound convincing, after all people lie wenn they have something to hide right? But again you prefer nonsense about KGB. KGB is no more and if you cant separate facts from your imagination why should anyone believe you? Relly on people prejudice instead of truth? Dont you think it could be honest mistacke? After all during surprise attack many people could become separeted or wounded and so on, and believed to be dead? It could be incorrect information (after all it was warzone and government of S Osetia should count thier loses very quickly) and of course disinformation of authorities to justify quick and desisive action. Disinformation was used by almost everyone including US and NATO so it is always possibility. But you are absolutely certain that it was KGB plan. See latest update from Saakashvili i think after 8 months he already invented something more conviencing. Something that wont play on your nerves and there will be evrything: empty Tskhinval, peacefull georgian soldiers with flowers and gifts to S Osetians and (how without it?
) horrible KGB plot against Georgia and whole "free" world.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Tamara_Georgia Girl - 05-26-2009
since i'd registered on this forum, i try to find some arguments in SiD's posts, but they are known as the biggest deliriums ! ! ! work to improve your intellectual quotient and shorter your long-tongue! ! ! make your comments settled with facts and don't talk like APE, just landed from tree!!!
P.S don't answer my posts, not interested in your childish logic !!!
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - SiD - 05-26-2009
Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:since i'd registered on this forum, i try to find some arguments in SiD's posts, but they are known as the biggest deliriums ! ! ! work to improve your intellectual quotient and shorter your long-tongue! ! ! make your comments settled with facts and don't talk like APE, just landed from tree!!!
P.S don't answer my posts, not interested in your childish logic !!!
Hey you think i should write what you want and repeat your "arguments"? This topic has many pages, so if you want arguments go ahead and explore it i do not want to repeat myself and other people.
P.S.
Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:P.S don't answer my posts, not interested in your childish logic !!!
Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:I don't want to listen such senseless posts,Such things arent unusual in your posts, beter get used that people can and should have thier own opinion and are free to express it on this forum. You re such a fan of democracy and freedom but wish to silence anyone who do not agree with you. Freedom of writing you know
, see it as test of your tolerance, after all it is a sign of free and democratic society isnt it?
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Tamara_Georgia Girl - 05-26-2009
Quote:Such things arent unusual in your posts, beter get used that people can and should have thier own opinion and are free to express it on this forum. You re such a fan of democracy and freedom but wish to silence anyone who do not agree with you. Freedom of writing you know , see it as test of your tolerance, after all it is a sign of free and democratic society isnt it?
as i know your posts quite well i can say that i found no one argument there, so they are complitely delirium! i'm very tolerant person and don't try to make some provocative useless ugly image from me!
I can listen and happily respect the different point of view, which is really reasonable, logical and not DELIRIUM! go read some books and then come and comment ...
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - SiD - 05-26-2009
Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:as i know your posts quite well i can say that i found no one argument there, so they are complitely delirium! i'm very tolerant person and don't try to make some provocative useless ugly image from me!
I can listen and happily respect the different point of view, which is really reasonable, logical and not DELIRIUM! go read some books and then come and comment ...
Examples please, after all i can explain my point of view if you cant understand it. If you care of course, becouse i think you do not care about any other arguments exept your own.( you know the truth and anything different is delirium and KGB prapaganda, right?
).And if you are such tolerant and good person why you try to offend me in every post? I find it a bit amusing wenn you write how untolerant and uncivilized russians are but act like those your "russians".
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Guest - 05-27-2009
SiD Wrote:Tamara_Georgia Girl Wrote:as i know your posts quite well i can say that i found no one argument there, so they are complitely delirium! i'm very tolerant person and don't try to make some provocative useless ugly image from me!
I can listen and happily respect the different point of view, which is really reasonable, logical and not DELIRIUM! go read some books and then come and comment ...
Examples please, after all i can explain my point of view if you cant understand it. If you care of course, becouse i think you do not care about any other arguments exept your own.( you know the truth and anything different is delirium and KGB prapaganda, right?
And if you are such tolerant and good person why you try to offend me in every post? I find it a bit amusing wenn you write how untolerant and uncivilized russians are but act like those your "russians".
Dont waste your time on SID.He is not wort it. He is not too bright. :roll:
Sid everybody who came accross your posts thinks that you do not take you medication. :haha
Only someone with sick mind or dyslecsick :lol: can post an idiotic posts like you do.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - SiD - 05-27-2009
Europe Forum Guest Wrote:Dont waste your time on SID.He is not wort it. He is not too bright. :roll:
Sid everybody who came accross your posts thinks that you do not take you medication. :haha
Only someone with sick mind or dyslecsick :lol: can post an idiotic posts like you do.
And you re big fan of medications i see, you know it is easy to guess why. Get yourself a nick if you arent too imberassed by bull...t you write.
Tskhinvali & something more - gomboreli - 05-29-2009
Those who obediently apply the official Russian dictionary in regards with the Caucasus may not know that the name Tskhinvali even without the last letter ‘i’ still has Georgian origin and literally means ‘hornbeam’. But I won’t be surprised if the city gets renamed some time soon. After all, the fact that the Chechen capital is still called Grozny after its brutal butcher-conqueror Ivan the Terrible, proves the Russian cynicism boundless. Tskhinvali, which was Staliniri for almost three decades in mid-XX century, may become for instance Putingrad now – there is already a street after his name there. The colonization policy, which is in a full swing now, envisages the eradication of everything connecting this region with its Georgian past.
The term ‘South Ossetia’, invented by Russian Bolsheviks in 1922 after their military conquest of the region a year earlier, sounds far more outrageous. Any unbiased court would prove the Russo-Ossetian territorial claims over Tskhinvali and its surrounding areas ludicrously groundless, but alas the might often outweighs the right. Such is the reality now and in general hardly the justice prevails in the world.
If we look at a greater picture, there are other countries around as well who in one way or another fell victims to aggressive neighbours or other sore circumstances. Serbia, Syria, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Ireland, Spain, Japan, and even giant India and China long for restoration of their territorial integrity. The international situation quite rapidly changes, so as long as another solution is currently ruled out, patience can be regarded as the best ally.
And finally. As far as Saakashvili is concerned, following the Yamadayevs and Kadyrovs he can rather be nominated for the Hero of Russia award for his outstanding contribution to the success of the Russian policy in the Caucasus.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Newrussian town - 05-29-2009
Hi everyone!!! Sorry for my rude comments from last visit. I have just come from the Republic of Abchazia from our "new" millitary base in Gudayta. I can say only that we are creating a new state, the native people are glad to see us in their lands, we knew that no one can shoot us back.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Guest - 05-29-2009
Newrussian town Wrote:Hi everyone!!! Sorry for my rude comments from last visit. I have just come from the Republic of Abchazia from our "new" millitary base in Gudayta. I can say only that we are creating a new state, the native people are glad to see us in their lands, we knew that no one can shoot us back.
Hi just came back form the same town and everybody hates you. :lol: :haha
They afraid to shoot you , but given right sicumstanses they will. Just wait.
Re: Georgia and South Ossetia at war - Tamara_Georgia Girl - 05-30-2009
Quote:Hi everyone!!! Sorry for my rude comments from last visit. I have just come from the Republic of Abchazia from our "new" millitary base in Gudayta. I can say only that we are creating a new state, the native people are glad to see us in their lands, we knew that no one can shoot us back.
that sounds great! I was planning a summer vacation in Sukhumi this summer, will you be there?? I'd love to see you and then bring good news for EU-forum users, that Newrussian town has gone forever! ! !