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THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - b-j - 03-02-2008
The Jerusalem Post, wrote:
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More than seven years after Muhammad al-Dura, 12, was apparently shot to death during clashes between IDF troops and Palestinian gunmen at Gaza's Netzarim junction.
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Muhammad al-Dura was with his father both were armless (except for a cell phone!!)
The IDF was not defending it was shooting at them for FOURTY FIVE MINUTES and a French reporter was prod casting alive!
There was no clashes between IDF troops and Palestinian gunmen at all, JUST A KILLER AND A VICTIM.
The us had to send some hard talk to the Arabs to stop prod casting the tape because it flamed the region.
Yesterday Israel killed 61 people, many were children in there homes.
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Israel officials say bluntly IT WILL BE THE Palestinian HOLOCOST!!
Re: THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - Boka Kotorska - 03-04-2008
The Israeli - Palestinian conflict is not only when Israeli army attacks and kill Palestinians, also this conflict affects Isaeli people. I was several times in Israel, and every time I was affraid of some bomb attack. I hope that Israeli and Palestinian people will live in peace, but I also aprove Israeli reaction, they must defend their civilians. Here I must add that Palestinian people must vote a democratic governament, not Hamas, which members are terorists. Every conflict harms children the most, and for that reason I am praying that this war stops as soon as possible.
By the way Israeli people have developed their country in one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world, and on the other side Palestinians Governament failed to provide water and food to their peple, becouse of coruption and lack of knowledge.
Shalom - Salam - Peace - Mir
Re: THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - b-j - 03-06-2008
you should see the whole picture
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In Isreal they prohibit pl from gonig back to thier homes, which the isreali drove them out of it
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yet isreal as a democratic stat has a law which take the land of absent pl !!!!
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The first suicide operation was done by a Jewish man
in which he shot 30 pl from the back while they were praying!!
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They can live in peace only when there is justice
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water is stolen by the isreali.
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Us gives bilions to Isreal.
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I hope y add some medicine to yr prayers, see how things are realy going
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The cornered victim jumped fighting back - b-j - 03-06-2008
The cornered victim jumped fighting back
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After the killing of pl in Gaza reached 100
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and starvation 1.100.000 pl
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with the largest prison ever, well closed to punish the pls who elected the
"wrong party"
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The cascade of violence started again in a second place
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Two ys Hamas respected there word to stop suicidal operations
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now an unknown person
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took the matter in his hands
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Entered a religion school in Jerusalem which teaches some fanatic teachings like
"Arab are insects and they should all be killed or driven out of their homes"
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Eight pl were killed in the event.
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I hope someone powerful in this world stop this
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May be by a road map
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To a MINIMUM HUMAN DIGNITY
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NOT TO THE illusion of peacefull Israel, with 1.500.000 prisoners nearby in Gaza!!
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saving a life of a human is like saving the lives of all human
Facts & Numbers - b-j - 03-07-2008
Facts & Numbers
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The tall kill of Palestinians reached 130 death
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40 children
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10 women
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Seriously injured 400
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Most are women & children
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THE KILLER IS THE WELL ARMED IMF army.
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The total kill in the Jewish side is 8
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All of them served and still serve in the IMF
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THE KILLER IS ONE MAN, whose family and friends are now in jail,
and his house is now destroyed, as the code of fighting back in Israel.
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Western media was skillful in showing the world the grief of many
Jewish pl.
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Nothing comes from the other side,,,,, may be they'r less human!!!!!
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however y can see someone shouting or waving a gun in anger!
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The politics is worse than the media.
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Mr. Busch wants every state to regret the 8 death
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OK,
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What about 130 lives, :oops:
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most of them were killed by the IMF using US planes US weapons, taking a good political cover, granted the excuse to kill more.
A free witness= - b-j - 03-07-2008
Seven Israeli student-soldiers killed in revenge attack for Gaza massacres
Zionist dominated Western media drops any pretense of objectivity today. While the more than 120 Palestinians killed in Gaza in the past week were for them business as usual, an attack on an institution for the extremist settler movement is an 'escalation'. A few years back when a brutal siege of the Jenin refugee camp ended, and Israel allowed in foreign journalists after a week of 'clearing' the crime scene, Zionists immediately went on the attack against anyone describing the flattening of the whole refugee camp as a massacre. Yet today, the Independent sees nothing wrong in declaring the death of 7 Zionist militants a 'massacre'. You are unlikely to find any truth today on the media, who are always looking for an opportunity to balance their reluctant reporting of Israeli crimes with something that could present the oppressors as victims in the same league. (Although the Independent mentions that the 'seminary' was established by the notoriously racist Rabbi Kook, it gives no indication to readers why that in itself should raise some eyebrows).
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Zionist rabbis says Torah permits killing Palestinian civilians
The association of rabbis for the people and land of Israel headed by extremist rabbi Dov Lior issued on Wednesday a religious ruling legitimizing the shelling of Palestinian civilian gatherings by IOF troops at the pretext of responding to the rocket attacks carried out by the Palestinians.
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FLASHBACK: The Nazi rabbi
Mordechai, considered one of the most knowledgeable Talmudic sages in Israel , said it was forbidden to risk the lives of Jews for fear of injuring and killing Palestinian civilians.
This is not the first time Elyahu issues such an outrageous Talmudic edict. A few years ago, he called on the Israeli occupation army not to refrain from killing Palestinian children if that meant "saving Jewish lives."
Elyahu is associated with Merkaz Ha'rav, a Talmudic College in West Jerusalem , that is largely considered to be the theological and ideological nerve center of religious-messianic Zionism.
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Re: THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - raymond - 03-31-2008
b-j Wrote:The Jerusalem Post, wrote:
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More than seven years after Muhammad al-Dura, 12, was apparently shot to death during clashes between IDF troops and Palestinian gunmen at Gaza's Netzarim junction.
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Muhammad al-Dura was with his father both were armless (except for a cell phone!!)
The IDF was not defending it was shooting at them for FOURTY FIVE MINUTES and a French reporter was prod casting alive!
There was no clashes between IDF troops and Palestinian gunmen at all, JUST A KILLER AND A VICTIM.
The us had to send some hard talk to the Arabs to stop prod casting the tape because it flamed the region.
Yesterday Israel killed 61 people, many were children in there homes.
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Israel officials say bluntly IT WILL BE THE Palestinian HOLOCOST!!
why Israel always kill the Palestenie Kids and Woma? Because they learn from Holocaust of Jews when World War II, where Hitler always kill the kids and woman..because they affraid that those kids wil become a hero or army to against them..that's the truth..so we must keep the palestine kids and woman...Allahhu Akbar
HATE SPEECH & THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - b-j - 04-06-2008
EXAMPLES OF HATE SPEECH
EXAMPLES OF HATE SPEECH
1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in
ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They
are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred
meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our
world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe
Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat,
they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time -
August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin,
speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts".
New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed
against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in
a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about
it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael
Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14
April 1983.
6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return
them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda
Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969
8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June
1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only
bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General
Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.
9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab
leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have
taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that
interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the
Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one
thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they
accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish
Paradox), pp121.
10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they
( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that
Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and
the young will forget."
11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live
here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of
General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will
do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and
the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3,
2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the
FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr.
Sharon may not have been joking.)
13. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one
centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will
understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come
crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli
Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times
14 April 1983.
14. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never
do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael
Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash
Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the
Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall
establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion,
eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on
and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to
the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar,
Delacorte, New York 1978.
16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation,
and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab
population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"
17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not
even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab
villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul;
Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of
Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a
single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab
population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in
Haaretz, April 4, 1969.
18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his
question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion
waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin,
leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times,
23 October 1979.
19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of
Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of
woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on
Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a
high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our
surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it
is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than
over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an
additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state
which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15
percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940
[and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish
Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri
Davis, p.5.
21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to
enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...
Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign
Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing
Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion,
clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten
with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization
or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of
their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it
employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the
poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl,
founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of
Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov
Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]
25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers.
Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever
destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish
Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
26. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only
question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or
consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified
before the U.S. Senate).
27. "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or
not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is
however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers
being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world."
(Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920)
"We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring
international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from
Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding
justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the
occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one -
progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in
the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in
the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That
oppressive regime exists to this day."
(Michael Ben-Yair, 3 March 2002)
"Accusations made by a well-established society about how a people it is
oppressing is breaking rules to attain its rights do not have much
credence."
(Shlomo Ben-Ami, 2000)
"We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them, ... we'll insert a strip of
Jewish settlements in between the Palestinians, and then another strip of
Jewish settlements right across the West Bank, so that in 25 years' time,
neither the United Nations nor the United States, nobody, will be able to
tear it apart."
(Ariel (Arik) Sharon, 1973)
"People are scared in this country [the US], to say wrong is wrong because
the Jewish lobby is powerful - very powerful. Well, so what? For goodness
sake, this is God's world! We live in a moral universe. The apartheid
government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists. Hitler,
Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin were all powerful,
but in the end they bit the dust. Injustice and oppression will never
prevail. Those who are powerful have to remember the litmus test that God
gives to the powerful: what is your treatment of the poor, the hungry, the
voiceless? And on the basis of that, God passes judgment. We should put
out a clarion call to the government of the people of Israel, to the
Palestinian people and say: peace is possible, peace based on justice is
possible. We will do all we can to assist you to achieve this peace,
because it is God's dream, and you will be able to live amicably together
as sisters and brothers."
(Desmond Tutu, April 2002)
"[T]here is no single fixed method for murder and not even for genocide.
The author Y. L. Peretz wrote about "the righteous cat" who does not spill
blood, but only suffocates. The government of Israel, using the military
and its instruments of destruction, is not only spilling blood, but it is
also suffocating. ... Of course with our self-righteousness, with our
self-adoration in our "Jewish ethics" we make sure to advertise how
beautifully the doctors take care of Palestinian victims in the hospitals.
We do not advertise how many of those are executed in cold blood in their
own homes. So it's not yet genocide of the terrible and unique style of
which we were past victims. And as one of the smart Generals told me, we
do not have crematoria and gas chambers. Is anything less than that
consistent with Jewish ethics? Did he ever hear how an entire people said
that it did not know what was done in its name?"
(Shulamit Aloni, March 2003)
"The United States has an absolute, uncompromising commitment to Israel's
security and an absolute conviction that Israel alone must decide the
steps necessary to ensure that security. That is Israel's prerogative. We
accept that. We endorse that. Whatever Israel decides cannot, will not,
will never, not ever, alter our fundamental commitment to her security."
(Al Gore, 18 May 2000)
"I first visited Israel in 2000. I already then felt that I am returning
home despite the fact that this was a place I never visited. I have a deep
affinity with Israel. I have always admired the history of the State of
Israel and the hardness and determination of the people that founded it.
... I am also the daughter of a Presbyterian minister and was brought up
on the very moving stories of the Holy Land. They mean a lot to me. When I
first visited Mt. Olives, Lake Kinneret, Jerusalem, I felt a very deep
emotional experience."
(Condoleezza Rice, May 2003)
"Let there be no doubt -- the United States of America stands with the
State of Israel also because it is in our national interests to stand with
the State of Israel."
(Nancy Pelosi, April 1, 2003)
"I have learned that the state of Israel cannot be ruled in our generation
without deceit and adventurism."
(Moshe Shertok, 1950s)
"Let us approach them [the Palestinian refugees in the occupied
territories] and say that we have no solution, that you shall continue to
live like dogs, and whoever wants to can leave -- and we will see where
this process leads. In five years we may have 200,000 less people - and
that is a matter of enormous importance."
(Moshe Dayan, September 1967)
"God bless you. God bless our men and women serving on the frontlines
today. And God bless our special relationship between the United States of
America and the State of Israel."
(Nancy Pelosi, April 1, 2003)
"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves .. politically we are the
aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because
they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in
their view we want to take away from them their country. ... Behind the
terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not
devoid of idealism and self sacrifice."
(David Ben-Gurion, 1938)
". it's utterly hypocritical for Israelis to wonder aloud why Palestinians
don't pursue a non-violent strategy. One obvious reason is that, whenever
they have, Israel brutally represses it."
(Norman G. Finkelstein, 11 September 2003)
"The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates. It
includes parts of Syria and Lebanon."
(Yehudah Leib Fischmann, 1947)
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to
enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...
Everything we don't grab will go to them."
(Ariel (Arik) Sharon, 17 Bovember 1998)
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his
question, 'What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion
waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'"
(Yitzhak Rabin, July 1948)
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even
know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab
villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul;
Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of
Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal Al-Shuman. There is not a
single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab
population."
(Moshe Dayan, 4 April 1969)
"Ours will be a brutal land of pens stretching between the Jordan River
and the Mediterranean that will make South African apartheid pale."
(Yigal Bronner, 17 September 2003)
"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to
the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the
Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified
by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of
the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the
proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly
as their national home. The nobler course would be to insist on a just
treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred. The Jews born in
France are French in precisely the same sense that Christians born in
France are French."
(Mahatma Gandhi, 26 November 1938)
"Sharon certainly does have a plan: to protect Eretz Yisrael, avoid
returning any territories and make sure the settlements stay where they
are. Everything else is tactics."
(Aluf Benn, 18 September 2003)
"Arabs in Israel ... have no right to serve in the Israel Defense Forces,
to marry a Jew in Israel according to state law, or even to study in the
language of the majority."
(Amnon Rubinstein, 18 September 2003)
" We live in a thunderously failed reality. ... A state lacking justice
cannot survive. ... Even if the Arabs lower their heads and swallow their
shame and anger for ever, it won't work. A structure built on human
callousness will inevitably collapse in on itself. Note this moment well:
Zionism's superstructure is already collapsing like a cheap Jerusalem
wedding hall."
(Avraham Burg, 15 September 2003)
"Israel, having ceased to care about the children of the Palestinians,
should not be surprised when they come washed in hatred and blow
themselves up in the centres of Israeli escapism. They consign themselves
to Allah in our places of recreation, because their own lives are torture.
They spill their own blood in our restaurants in order to ruin our
appetites, because they have children and parents at home who are hungry
and humiliated."
(Avraham Burg, 15 September 2003)
"Between the Jordan and the Mediterranean there is no longer a clear
Jewish majority. And so, fellow citizens, it is not possible to keep the
whole thing without paying a price. We cannot keep a Palestinian majority
under an Israeli boot and at the same time think ourselves the only
democracy in the Middle East. There cannot be democracy without equal
rights for all who live here, Arab as well as Jew. We cannot keep the
territories and preserve a Jewish majority in the world's only Jewish
state"
(Avraham Burg, 15 September 2003)
"Do you want democracy? No problem. Either abandon the greater land of
Israel, to the last settlement and outpost, or give full citizenship and
voting rights to everyone, including Arabs. The result, of course, will be
that those who did not want a Palestinian state alongside us will have one
in our midst, via the ballot box. The prime minister should present the
choices forthrightly: Jewish racism or democracy. Settlements, or hope for
both peoples."
(Avraham Burg, 15 September 2003)
"The British told us that there are some hundred thousand negroes
['kushim'] and for those there is no value."
(Chaim Weizmann, around 1917)
"We must expropriate gently the private property on the state assigned to
us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by
procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it
employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side.
Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be
carried out discretely and circumspectly. Let the owners of the immoveable
property believe that they are cheating us, selling us things for more
than they are worth. But we are not going to sell them anything back."
(Theodore Herzl, 12 June 1895)
"Exploiting the genuine security related worries of the Israeli people and
the majority's wish for a political parting from the Palestinians, the
Sharon government is constructing a system of fences that will not achieve
separation, that will not draw a border, and that will not, eventually,
bring security. What we are facing in the "fence" is yet another typical,
thoroughly calculated "Sharonic" act of deception. The real purpose of the
walls is very different. They are intended as another layer--maybe the
ultimate one--in the complex matrix of control which constitutes the
Israeli occupation: the settlements, the roads, the roadblocks, the
curfews, the closures, and the use of brute military force. The walls that
Sharon is building now are intended to render Israel's hold over the land
it captured in 1967 irreversible. They are the last nail in the coffin of
the two-states solution. We shall wake up, in another year and a half from
now, to a drastically different reality: a cruel state consisting of pens
enclosures will stretch between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean."
(Yigal Bronner, 23 September 2003)
"Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
(Moshe Dayan, unknown date)
"Consider Jenin and Warsaw. In both cases, the world, Western democratic
countries stood by and watched the slaughter. Horrified but unwilling to
act. But today, in Jenin, unlike during the Nazi slaughter of the Jews in
Warsaw, no one can say they didn't know."
(James Petras, April 2002)
"[I]n Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of
consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country ... The
four powers are committed to Zionism and Zionism, be it right or wrong,
good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future
hopes, of far profounder import than the desire and prejudices of the
700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land."
(Arthur James Balfour, 11 August 1919)
"There is no terrible regime - Columbia, Guatemala, Uruguay, Argentina and
Chile during the time of the colonels, Burma, Taiwan, Zaire, Liberia,
Congo, Sierra Leone - there is not one that does not have a major military
connection to Israel. Israeli arms dealers are there [acting as]
mercenaries - the guy behind Noriega was Michael Harari, an Israeli, who
got out of Panama. Israeli mercenaries in Sierra Leone go around the UN
boycotts of what are called blood diamonds, same in Angola. Israel was
very involved in South Africa, of course, during the apartheid regime."
(Jeff Halper, 20 September 2003)
"Israel has also become the main subcontractor of American arms. Just last
year, Israel signed a contract to train and equip the Chinese army. It
signed another multi-billion dollar contract to train and equip the Indian
army. What is it equipping them with? It is equipping them with American
weapons."
(Jeff Halper, 20 September 2003)
"When AIPAC sells Israel to Congress, it doesn't go to Congressmen and ask
them to support Israel because it is Judeo-Christian, or because it is the
'only democracy in the Middle East,' which it also does. It sells it on
this basis: 'You are a member of Congress and it is your responsibility to
support Israel, because this is how many industries in your state have
business links to Israel, this is how many military research people are
sitting in universities in your district, this is how many jobs in your
district are dependent on the military and the defence industry,' and they
translate it down to the extent to which your district is dependent on
Israel. Therefore, if you are voting against Israel, you are voting
against the goose that lays the golden egg. In most of the districts in
the United States, members of Congress have a great dependence on the
military. More than half of industrial employment in California is in one
way or another connected to defence. Israel is right there, right in the
middle of it all. And that is part of its strength."
(Jeff Halper, 20 September 2003)
"Israel is very important, because on the one hand it is a very
sophisticated, high-tech, arms developer and dealer. But on the other
hand, there are no ethical or moral constraints: there is no Congress,
there are no human rights concerns, there are no laws against taking
bribes - the Israeli government can do anything it wants to. So you have
very sophisticated rogue state - not a Libyan rogue state, but a high
tech, military-expert rogue state. Now that is tremendously useful, both
for Europe and for the United States. For example, there are American
Congressional constraints on selling arms to China because of China's
human rights problems. So what Israel does is it tinkers with American
arms just enough that they can be considered Israeli arms, and in that way
bypasses Congress."
(Jeff Halper, 20 September 2003)
"I don't think we can dismantle the matrix of control. I think it has gone
too far, and that the occupation is permanent. We are in a state of
apartheid. But not everybody agrees with me - Uri Avnery doesn't agree
with me, the people who are in favour of a two-state solution still think
that we can end the occupation, or that we can roll it back enough that a
Palestinian state will emerge. But the danger in being for a Palestinian
state is that if you don't understand the control dimensions, then you are
actually agitating for a Bantustan. I mean, Sharon also wants a
Palestinian state; he wants a state that is completely controlled by
Israel. So if you only look at territory and you don't look at the issue
of control, you end up advocating a Bantustan."
(Jeff Halper, 20 September 2003)
"I was recently at a conference with John Dugard, who is now the Special
Rapporteur of the UN Commission on Human Rights for the Occupations
Palestinian Territories, and is originally from South Africa. He was
(jokingly) offended that apartheid was being maligned [by its comparison
the Israeli occupation]. In South Africa you didn't have apartheid on the
roads, you didn't have walls being constructed."
(Jessica Montell, September 21, 2003)
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch
them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European
capitals are targets for our air force. ... Let me quote General Moshe
Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I
consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent
things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however,
are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or
third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can
assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under."
(Martin van Creveld, 2003)
" We must define our position and lay down basic principles for a
settlement. Our demands should be moderate and balanced, and appear to be
reasonable. But in fact they must involve such conditions as to ensure
that the enemy rejects them. Then we should manoeuvre and allow him to
define his own position, and reject a settlement on the basis of a
compromise position. We should then publish his demands as embodying
unreasonable extremism."
(Yehoshafat Harkabi, 2 November 1973)
"Following 70 years of intensive excavations in the Land of Israel,
archaeologists have found out: The patriarchs' acts are legendary, the
Israelites did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, they did not
conquer the land. Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and
Solomon, nor of the source of belief in the God of Israel. These facts
have been known for years, but Israel is a stubborn people and nobody
wants to hear about it."
(Ze'ev Herzog, 29 October 1999)
"All these events [in the biblical books of Exodus and Joshua] are
practically contradicted by archaeology."
(Ze'ev Herzog, 23 December 1999)
"Even orders given by a government elected by a perfectly formal
democratic process can be criminal orders. The French in their colonies
and the Americans in Vietnam provided classic examples of war crimes
perpetrated by democratic governments."
(Ze'ev (Zeev) Sternhell, 17 October 2003)
"In fact, I cannot think of any other country on earth that, in full view
of nightly TV audiences, has performed such miracles of detailed sadism
against an entire society and gotten away with it."
(Edward Said, September 25, 2003)
"The obvious intention of the Israeli government is to see that the
reality of forced poverty and starvation, brought on by the imposition of
the wall and the new "closed zones" become so unbearable for communities
in the northern West Bank that people choose to leave in the hope of
finding a better life. The village of Jubara is just one of many cases
being fatally affected in this latest attempt by Israel and its military
to cleanse the recently seized "closed zone" of all its Palestinian
inhabitants and thus annex the land, and its existing illegal settlers to
Israel proper."
(Mustafa (Mustapha) Barghouti, October 27, 2003)
"DiY media analysis: It is relatively easy to locate bias and imbalances
in the media. An obvious way into it is to note the language used to
describe news actors and assess whether the same words are used for
similar actions or behaviours. Look for the language used to describe
political stories. Who are the 'terrorists'?; and who the 'activists',
'fighters' or 'guerrillas'? Which governments are described in negative
terms as 'extreme' or 'corrupt' and which in more positive terms? Check
which side in a conflict are said to 'kill', 'murder' or commit
'massacres' and which are said simply to 'respond', 'strike' or commit
actions which result in 'deaths'? Is it always the case that these
descriptors are simply factual terms?"
(David Miller, 2003)
"It's been a long time since I've felt so small, uncomfortable and
red-faced as during the show of whining and whimpering organized by Israel
at The Hague. ... The Palestinians are fighting occupation and we want the
world to stand by us as we pay the price for that occupation. Sooner or
later, the fence will fall, just like the Berlin Wall. ... Exploiting
bereavement and wallowing in self-pity is fitting for soap operas - not
for the strongest country in the Middle East."
(Yoel Marcus, 27 February 2004)
"Is it conceivable that somebody on our side has decided that all of
Palestinian society is the target? ... [Israel's] war without questions
intensifies and broadens the circles of hatred for generations."
(Alex Fishman, October 2003)
"The depressing truth is that Israel's current behavior is not just bad
for America, though it surely is. It is not even just bad for Israel
itself, as many Israelis silently acknowledge. The depressing truth is
that Israel today is bad for the Jews."
(Tony Judt, 23 October 2003)
"While Israeli forces were engaged in what many termed a brutal - some
even say criminal - campaign to crush Palestinian militants and terrorist
cells in West Bank towns, U.S. military officials were in Israel seeing
what they could learn from that urban fight."
(Christian Lowe, 10 June 2002)
"[Y]ou have here in the United States the very powerful role played by the
Israel lobby on Amnesty International USA. They are very powerful; they
apply enormous pressure on Amnesty International USA, headquartered in New
York. Amnesty International USA pretty much kowtows to them, and they use
contributions to make sure that Amnesty International USA tows the line on
Israel, and Amnesty International USA pays about 20% of the London budget.
So that has an impact over in London too."
(Francis Boyle, Summer 2002)
"make their life so bitter that they will transfer themselves willingly"
(Binyamin (Benny) Elon, some date around 2003)
"[Some people believe] a mistaken claim holding that Zionism's main
rationale was to create a sanctuary for persecuted Jews"
(David Breakstone, 5 November 2003)
"I am prepared, as an American and a Jew, to make the well being of Israel
my primary concern"
(Gary Rosenblatt, 7 November 2003)
"The delusions, the self-righteousness, and the disassociation from a
hostile world and the distancing from universal norms are symptoms of a
society sinking into apartheid, as the South Africans who experienced that
descent can attest. The hiding behind anti-Semitism may make an impression
on the Europeans, but it will not be long before the ostracism will
penetrate the walls of self-righteousness and bring them crashing down."
(Meron Benvenisti, 6 November 2003)
"The issue of Palestinian refugees resonated with me because I myself was
a refugee. ... We came to the U.S. in August 1944 as part of a token group
of about 1,000 mostly Jewish refugees ... In 1987, when I read Simha
Flapan's The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities, I was so shocked and
disbelieving that it took me a second reading of his book to come to terms
with what he wrote at the outset: that the 1948 war was as needless and
unnecessary for the "security" of Israel as was the Israeli invasion of
Lebanon of 1982. I learned that ... the 1948 war was not defensive, but a
war to gain more territory than the U.N. had allotted for the Jewish state
and to "cleanse" the area of Palestinian Arabs. I learned that even before
the May 15 invasion by Arab armies, Jewish forces had succeeded in
expelling some 300,000 Palestinians from their homes, but another 400,000
Palestinians remained in areas that the Jews coveted. Since the Jewish
population of Palestine in 1948 was only about 600,000, the Ben-Gurion
leadership required war in order to rid the new Jewish state of most of
its Arab population."
(Ronald Bleier, November 1992)
"The guideline of our policy has always been the idea that a permanent
situation of no peace and a latent war is the best situation for us, and
that it must be maintained at all costs. ... we are becoming stronger year
by year in a situation of impending conflict where it is possible that
actual fighting may break out from time to time. SUch wars will usually be
short and the results guaranteed in advance, since the gap between us and
the Arabs is increasing. In this way we shall move on from occupation to
further occupation. ... this criminally mischievous policy has led us into
the crisis we are living through today"
(Yeshayahu Leibowitz, 30 November 1973)
"We have not been seeking peace for twenty-five years -- all declarations
to that effect have been no more than coloured statements or deliberate
lies. There is of course no assurance that we could have made peace with
the Arabs if we had wanted to. However, it has to be heavily emphasized
that we have not only made no attempts to seek peace, but have
deliberately and with premeditation, sabotaged every possibility of doing
so."
(Yeshayahu Leibowitz, 30 November 1973)
"I want the Arabs to see Jewish lights every night 500 meters from them."
(Ariel (Arik) Sharon, 1980)
"We're involved here ... in a struggle for the existence of the State of
Israel as the state of the Jews, as opposed to those who want to force us
to be a state of all its citizens."
(Limor Livnat, 2002)
"Indeed, the most pernicious aspect of a political philosophy like Zionism
that masquerades as democratic is that it requires an enemy in order to
survive and, where an enemy does not already exist, it requires that one
be created. In order to justify racist repression and dispossession,
particularly in a system purporting to be democratic, those being
repressed and displaced must be portrayed as murderous and predatory. And
in order to keep its own population in line, to prevent a humane people
from objecting to their own government's repressive policies, it requires
that fear be instilled in the population: fear of "the other," fear of the
terrorist, fear of the Jew-hater. The Jews of Israel must always be made
to believe that they are the preyed-upon. This justifies having forced
these enemies to leave, it justifies discriminating against those who
remained, it justifies denying democratic rights to those who later came
under Israel's control in the occupied territories."
(Kathleen Christison, 8 November 2003)
"I think that everyone who lives with the contradictions of Zionism
condemns himself to protracted madness. It's impossible to live like this.
It's impossible to live with such a tremendous wrong. It's impossible to
live with such conflicting moral criteria. When I see not only the
settlements and the occupation and the suppression, but now also the
insane wall that the Israelis are trying to hide behind, I have to
conclude that there is something very deep here in our attitude to the
indigenous people of this land that drives us out of our minds."
(Haim Hanegbi, 8 August 2003)
"It would be quite astounding if Israel, the US's most loyal ally, which
we now know has at least one secret prison, wasn't offering its services
to the US. Israel has decades of expertise in torturing and interrogating
Arab prisoners -- exactly the skills the Americans now need since the
invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq."
(Dalia Kerstein, November 2003)
"Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have incurred incalculable human and
political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible.... We would
have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq.... there was
no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our
principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern
for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying
Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have
destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we
hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States
could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
(George H. W. Bush, September 1998)
"Our claim that Israel has fulfilled its side of the 'road map' is seen as
lacking credibility because not only have we not evacuated the illegal
outposts, we are working in every way to whitewash their existence and
build more."
(Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Autumn 2003)
"We don't have unlimited time ... More and more Palestinians are
uninterested in a negotiated, two-state solution, because they want to
change the essence of the conflict from an Algerian paradigm to a South
African one. From a struggle against 'occupation,' in their parlance, to a
struggle for one-man-one-vote. That is, of course, a much cleaner
struggle, a much more popular struggle - and ultimately a much more
powerful one. For us, it would mean the end of the Jewish state."
(Ehud Olmert, November 2003)
"We don't have unlimited time ... More and more Palestinians are
uninterested in a negotiated, two-state solution ... we may have to
espouse unilateral separation. We won't need the Palestinians' support for
that. What we would need is to pull ourselves together, to determine where
the line should run. ... [The fence would] ultimately become part of [the
unilateral plan]"
(Ehud Olmert, November 2003)
"The fear of the loss of the majority has already yielded plans for
campaigns against the danger, such as the projects for increasing the
Jewish birth rate, granting voting rights to expatriates or even to Jews
wherever they may be."
(Meron Benvenisti, 20 November 2003)
"Israel and the Palestinians are sinking together into the mud of the "one
state." The question is no longer whether it will be binational, but which
model to choose."
(Meron Benvenisti, 20 November 2003)
"It's a unitary state controlled by one dominant national group, which
leaves the other national group disenfranchised and subject to laws "for
natives only," which for the purposes of respectability and international
law are known as laws of "belligerent occupation." ... That's the
situation nowadays."
(Meron Benvenisti, 20 November 2003)
"We should say we accept a two-state solution, but that it means going
back to the 1967 borders, and a fully independent and sovereign
Palestinian state. We should give them six months. If there is no
decision, we should say Israel, by its own choice, doesn't want a
two-state solution. If Israel wants a one-state solution we accept; but 20
years from now, we're going to ask for one person, one vote."
(Ali Jirbawi, November 2003)
"If you look at the drive for a two-state solution in the past, it was
always to prevent conflict. What is becoming more prevalent is that people
are saying we have to do it because if we don't we're going to end up with
a bi-national state. ... If you look at all the surveys of public opinion,
the one issue that unites the Jewish population of Israel is that more
than 90 per cent say they want to retain a Jewish majority. The problem of
the right wing is that they want a Greater Israel including the occupied
territories, without any withdrawal. The irony is by doing that they
invite a bi-national state."
(David Newman, November 2003)
"In progress in the occupied territories is a war of repression entirely
subservient to the ideology of the settlement drive. The Palestinian
population is being subjected to starvation, denial of medical treatment,
demolition of homes and economic strangulation. I will take no part in
these war crimes, nor will I serve as a fig leaf for them."
(Idan Landau, July 2001)
"Benny Morris used to be a "Young Turk", but now he's become an old jerk
with a vengenace."
(Avi Shlaim, 8 November 2003)
"The trees grow back and ultimately we hope to harvest them in the place
of the unwanted inhabitants of the area."
(Yossi Peli, 14 November 2003)
"The life of the Palestinians has indeed become hell. Most of them live
below the poverty line, many on the threshold of hunger, some in an actual
state of hunger. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinian children suffer from
malnutrition. Every village has become a prison camp, completely
surrounded by roadblocks. Traffic is well-nigh impossible. Many
Palestinians cannot reach their place of work, hospital, university or
school or bring their produce to market. Israeli troops prowl in the towns
and villages, demolishing homes, arresting or killing activists and, at
the same time, women and children, too. The distant sound of an airplane
engine is enough for the whole population to hold their breath."
(Uri Avnery, 14 November 2003)
"Palestine will be as Jewish as England is English."
(Chaim Weizmann, 1921)
"It was decided and carried out: they washed her, cut her hair, raped her
and killed her."
(David Ben-Gurion, 1949)
"What answer do we have to the question: Why should Natasha from Kiev,
whose ancestors had no connection to the Jewish people, be preferred to
Ahmad, whose family tilled the land around Safed for centuries?"
(Jonathan (Jonathon) Rosenblum, 1999)
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Re: THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - raymond - 04-07-2008
Boka Kotorska Wrote:The Israeli - Palestinian conflict is not only when Israeli army attacks and kill Palestinians, also this conflict affects Isaeli people. I was several times in Israel, and every time I was affraid of some bomb attack. I hope that Israeli and Palestinian people will live in peace, but I also aprove Israeli reaction, they must defend their civilians. Here I must add that Palestinian people must vote a democratic governament, not Hamas, which members are terorists. Every conflict harms children the most, and for that reason I am praying that this war stops as soon as possible.
By the way Israeli people have developed their country in one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world, and on the other side Palestinians Governament failed to provide water and food to their peple, becouse of coruption and lack of knowledge.
Shalom - Salam - Peace - Mir
The Jewish is not different with Aria from Bavaria. Aria was a tribe of Hitler which claim that their tribe as best tribe in the whole world and there's no one can compared with them..best of the best and the other are beast...So Jewish and Aria was the same case...so the holocaust of Jewish by Aria is the same holocaust case of the jewish to Palestine... Remember that in Palestine just not only moslem peoples but many Christians too and their always be in not secure just like same with their brother moslem...
The question is why all the christian people in the world always advocating about Israel attack and attitude? Remember that Jewish was very-very different with Christian..Jewish not claim that Christian are their brothers..ok Sallam
Re: THE Palestinian HOLOCOST - Martin - 12-25-2009
Presently, the suffering of the Palestinians is heartbreaking and should trouble the souls of every decent human being. The Israeli blockades and brutally enforced curfews are effectively stopping Palestinian bread winners from going to work. The bulldozing of Palestinian homes by the Israeli military and police forces is throwing hundreds of families into the streets. It is collective punishment of a people and the murder of hundreds of Palestinian children and women is a policy of genocide!