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Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 02-04-2009
Lenus, what country are you from? Where were you born? It may explain your attitude.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 02-04-2009
SiD Wrote:I have been reading here for a while. This is my first post. I noticed Sid is very active member here. Almost feels like this is his fulltime job to post.He is most definitly not the brightes. Dont waste your time on him because talking to him is like talking to the wall. Somebody labled him an "idot" It kind of fitsLenus Wrote:SiD,
The people living in other people's houses are illegally moved there, by a silent go-ahead of Russian Government.
If there was enough will to settle the conflict, the whole issue would have been resolved. But, as they say, nothing is easy for the unwilling mind.
What people and what houses. You know that if someone illigaly moves into my house i just call police and they are moved off. You know it is LEGAL way to remove ILLIGALY moved in people.
Parhaps i missunderstood you earlier? You are speaking about Ingushetian refugees that were deportated by Stalin and now it become conflict between Ingushs and Osetians becouse part of Ingushetia was populated by Osetians?
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Steven - 02-05-2009
Why do you call Sid an idiot? Just because he has a different opinion from yours? That's not a way of talking to people. I guess facts can prove everything. My opinion is almost the same as Sid's, am I now an idiot?
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - SiD - 02-05-2009
Guest Wrote:I have been reading here for a while. This is my first post. I noticed Sid is very active member here. Almost feels like this is his fulltime job to post.He is most definitly not the brightes. Dont waste your time on him because talking to him is like talking to the wall. Somebody labled him an "idot" It kind of fits
If you want to post something it wont hurt to have a nick and at least some opinion concerning the topic you have neither and since you also "Guest" and share his view on me personaly than my answer to this "guest" will suit you as well, enjoy.
btw it do not take much time to post here or to read answers of course if you have no trouble with writing or reading.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Lenus - 02-06-2009
Guest Wrote:Lenus, what country are you from? Where were you born? It may explain your attitude.
Georgia.
SiD Wrote:Parhaps i missunderstood you earlier? You are speaking about Ingushetian refugees that were deportated by Stalin and now it become conflict between Ingushs and Osetians becouse part of Ingushetia was populated by Osetians?
No, I didn't mean the Stalin period.
Read for yourself: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict</a><!-- m -->
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - SiD - 02-08-2009
Lenus Wrote:Guest Wrote:Lenus, what country are you from? Where were you born? It may explain your attitude.
Georgia.
SiD Wrote:Parhaps i missunderstood you earlier? You are speaking about Ingushetian refugees that were deportated by Stalin and now it become conflict between Ingushs and Osetians becouse part of Ingushetia was populated by Osetians?
No, I didn't mean the Stalin period.
Read for yourself: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict</a><!-- m -->
I didnt meant Stalin period either becouse problem is still actual but i am complietly right that it isnt simple one. No one can make things as they were more than half a century ago but to spark ethnic conflict it can be done easily, main concern here is to avoid it becouse both peoples have thier own right in the matter.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Lenus - 02-16-2009
SiD Wrote:I didnt meant Stalin period either becouse problem is still actual but i am complietly right that it isnt simple one. No one can make things as they were more than half a century ago but to spark ethnic conflict it can be done easily, main concern here is to avoid it becouse both peoples have thier own right in the matter.
THe problem isi still actual, because your government allowed it to happen in 1992. It has got nothing to do with Stalin, by the way.
You haven't read the article on the link provided <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict-">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian-Ingush_conflict-</a><!-- m --> let me quote some interesting points from there:
"Russian interior forces actively participated in the fighting and sometimes led Ossetian fighters into battle.[1]"
"On October 31, 1992, a high-level Russian delegation arrived to stop the violence, however, the first deployment of Russian peacekeepers did not begin until early November. Although Russian troops often intervened to prevent some acts of violence by Ossetian police and republican guards, the stance of the Russian peacekeeping forces was strongly pro-Ossetian,[15] not only objectively as a result of its deployment, but subjectively as well. President Boris Yeltsin issued a decree, that the Prigorodny District was to remain part of North Ossetia on November 2."
Very similar situation to Georgian-Ossetian conflict, almost identical.
Now, based on the facts brought above one could conclude that neither the Ingush-Ossetioan or Georgian-Ossetian conflicts were an isolated and unplanned occasions. Biased attitude towards justice and peacekeeping by Russian Troops, provoking the conflict and helping one side to keep another side "on his knees" before Russia's almightyness are well-known tricks the Russian Government uses fro decades.
It seems to me, that Russia tries to resolve its own territorial problems by provoking other peoples' conflicts. And these countries, willingly or unwillingly trapped and provoked in the wars now want freedom and justice.
This is what the whole topic is all about.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - SiD - 02-16-2009
Heh i see now how you think. All conflicts are Russian doing and planned decades before and bla bla bla. Just for you i will remind that no country would be willing to provoke national conflict inside its borders, it is just dengerous and brings nothing but trouble and of course it doesnt help to resolve territorial problems it creats them. And if you think that whole conflict just appeared on empty place you are wrong use your on link and find background as with georgia it goes back to USSR.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 05-31-2009
SiD Wrote:Heh i see now how you think. All conflicts are Russian doing and planned decades before and bla bla bla. Just for you i will remind that no country would be willing to provoke national conflict inside its borders, it is just dengerous and brings nothing but trouble and of course it doesnt help to resolve territorial problems it creats them. And if you think that whole conflict just appeared on empty place you are wrong use your on link and find background as with georgia it goes back to USSR.
Yes and you Sid are an idiot. Take your medications. :haha
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Iordan - 06-01-2009
Giovane Wrote:Eka, why are you so happy? You know that armenians and azerbaigans diasporas in Georgia threatened to get independence if georgian government don't stop oppress them. First of all, this diaspors want to have a possibility to study school program on their native languages.
By the way, Vanga (bulgarioan soothsayer) answered a georgian question 'bouth georgia as follows: " Georgia? I don't see such country!" ... Therefore your malicious joy at the minimum isn't appropriate.
Until now one nation (Meskhetian Turks) which is close to Turkish nation can not come back to their homeland in southern Georgia after exile which was done by Georgian Bolshevik Stalin and you are talking about Armenians and Azerbaijanis diasporas
Re: Demands Independence - london_observer - 06-03-2009
Plz stop tearing Caucasus apart...
Time now to discuss the independence of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - plazake - 08-04-2009
People in the Northwest that have devoted a lot of time to there trails aren't going to say anything about them in a forum. Very secretive!
Re: Demands Independence - Guest - 08-26-2009
london_observer Wrote:Plz stop tearing Caucasus apart...
Time now to discuss the independence of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
This forum is named : "Igushetia demands ............"
You want to talk about Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland THEN - start new topik
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Benn - 09-04-2009
free-ossetia Wrote:WHY SHOULD AMERICANS HATE OSETIANS?
Why you hate them?
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Kusnetsov - 09-04-2009
Quote:Why you hate them?
I understand the question is not to me. But if free-ossetia is a real Osetian, he has all th rights (all the reasons, at least) to hate Americans. And thus the question beginning with "Why..?" is not appropriate here. For the answer is obvious.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 09-04-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:Quote:Why you hate them?
I understand the question is not to me. But if free-ossetia is a real Osetian, he has all th rights (all the reasons, at least) to hate Americans. And thus the question beginning with "Why..?" is not appropriate here. For the answer is obvious.
Kunetsov you ARE an idiot. :lol: Did you even understand what you tryed to say. What a moron. :banghead
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Kusnetsov - 09-07-2009
Quote:Kunetsov you ARE an idiot. Did you even understand what you tryed to say. What a moron.
Just try to meet me and say it again. For you are brave only sitting at your comp. Anyway, I understand the things I mean. And I hope, Benn, whom I consider to be a smart man, will see my point.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Benn - 09-07-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:Quote:Kunetsov you ARE an idiot. Did you even understand what you tryed to say. What a moron.Just try to meet me and say it again. For you are brave only sitting at your comp. Anyway, I understand the things I mean. And I hope, Benn, whom I consider to be a smart man, will see my point.
I'm here ....dear friend... I think in the world are not so reasons because of people to hate each other, but a facts that made people to believe that in their heart is a feeling described by this word "hate" .
I totally disagree with this guest... this is you opinion and nobody can say that your's is wrong and his is right. I personal understand all what you try to say in your posts. so move on
uper ::up :hi
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Kusnetsov - 09-07-2009
Quote:I personal understand all what you try to say in your posts. so move on
Thank you.
Hatred is not the way out for Mankind. Actually, to hate is always easy. To hear, to listen to, to see, to understand is much more difficult, in my opinion. But obstacles are interesting to come over.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 09-18-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:Quote:Kunetsov you ARE an idiot. Did you even understand what you tryed to say. What a moron.
Just try to meet me and say it again. For you are brave only sitting at your comp. Anyway, I understand the things I mean. And I hope, Benn, whom I consider to be a smart man, will see my point.
I Am sooooooo scared. You are an idiot with big fists , no brain though
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Faw_Peter - 09-21-2009
Quote:I Am sooooooo scared. You are an idiot with big fists , no brain though
and how big is your brain if you can afford to offend someone without to know him, without any reason and without any rights ... people first, think and then speak ... but you seem to have spoken first, but not too sure that even after you thought of your words...
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 09-25-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:Quote:Why you hate them?
I understand the question is not to me. But if free-ossetia is a real Osetian, he has all th rights (all the reasons, at least) to hate Americans. And thus the question beginning with "Why..?" is not appropriate here. For the answer is obvious.
You mean I should call Kuznacov a briliant man for wrighting abouve statment?>
Only IDIOT can understand what he wrote, b/c it takes one to know one.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Faw_Peter - 09-26-2009
Quote:You mean I should call Kuznacov a briliant man for wrighting abouve statment?>
Only IDIOT can understand what he wrote, b/c it takes one to know one.
i'm not agree with you... If you don't like his posts you can not read them but nobody is entitled to name him and to judge him...only God, after death...
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - Guest - 09-26-2009
Faw_Peter Wrote:Quote:You mean I should call Kuznacov a briliant man for wrighting abouve statment?>
Only IDIOT can understand what he wrote, b/c it takes one to know one.
i'm not agree with you... If you don't like his posts you can not read them but nobody is entitled to name him and to judge him...only God, after death...
Kuznecov is an IDIOT :banghead . And he strated name calling long time ago. Look in " Russia the AWAKENNING" Pages 7-9.
thanks for your post PAW PETER , but I don't care if you agree or disagree.That is the buety of of it.
In other words if IDIOT kuznecov if dishing it out he should be able to take it.
Re: Ingushetia Demands Independence from Russia! - solzhenitsyn08 - 09-26-2009
Independence ought to be far from senseless points as we call "titular"! If the big people like Germans, Russians or Americans appropve it independence is good for everybody!