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Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - Mario De Sandozequi - 11-11-2008
Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling class.
Inside the great planetary emergency we face, caused by climate change, and which has been caused by 80 % or more for the rich class and dominant world, many focus to the control of the growth of the world's population.
They are wrong. The planet could easily withstand to more than 10,000 million people, if they had a style of life with dignity but austere
While this control of the growth of the world's population could help in something, such control not to change anything in the emergency face. While 6,400 million citizens present in the world is a problem of overcrowding, which requires great efforts to their survival; this is not the root cause of central problem.
The waste of energy resources or current and historical, generated by the ruling class (less than 5 % of total humanity), i.e. the rich and powerful, is enormous and is the real cause.
Under the capitalist system and imperialist, the planet cannot be more.
If every human had the right to have a car, a TV, library at home, 20 pairs of shoes, multiple cosmetics, multiple electronic and thousands and thousands of products ostentatious, surely we would have extinguished before 1990. The problem must be analyzed from a point of view of energy, thermodynamic and based on its second act: the Entropy of the system or economic model, social, political and energy,
If you join the energy and resources used from the Research, Design, Production, Use and until the Final destination (RDPUF) in armaments, wars, advertising and entertainment, could live in dignity and austere, more than 5,000 million human. With only the total energy RDPUF used in "Las Vegas", dedicated to the waste and the fun of less than 2 % of humanity, in only playing cards or to dice, you can feed more than one billion people each year.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) of nuclear weapons and guiding the world can feed, educate and provide decent housing for more than 1000 millions of poor of the world for 100 years or more.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to hundreds of millions of miles of roads for the rich, (there is a little more than 250 million cars with less than five years old, and in total a little more than 650 million worldwide, i.e. only 6 percent of the population have a Cars) can feed, educate and provide shelter to say more than 500 million, during more than 100 years.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to entertainment banal, (drugs anatomical massive) such as: musicians, music, TV, movies, sports and liqueurs, can give food, education and housing and austere to more than 2,500 million people during more than 100 years.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to the sports entertainment, for example: in the USA and its series "NASCAR" makes 43 auto racing a year, where in each attending between 200,000 to 450.000 people. Each race with total costs of more than $1 billion, more football, baseball and more than 100 sports for the rich, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere to more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to all the computers, office buildings of luxury, desks, paper, feathers and all the articles that use about 250 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and which are productive, it could feed, educate and provide decent housing and austere, to more than one billion people during more than 100 years.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to research very expensive as "Cyclotrons", NASA and the CIA using about 100 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and that are productive, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to submarines, aircraft, warships, armies and satellites of entertainment or warfare that only serve to 100 million of rich people throughout the world, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, to more than 3000 millions of people during more than 100 years
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to aircraft and flights for the rich, (only in the US are made more than 20 thousand daily flights or 7,300,000 per year, for transporting "comfortably" to the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years
With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to jewelry, dressed in luxury, luxury slippers, cosmetics, magazines, feathers of luxury yachts, furniture of luxury and hotels and Universities of luxury, for the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years.
And more than 100 more examples
If you are planned cities, without factories products banal and useless for most of the world's population such as those above, without luxury property, without sports clubs of luxury, without restaurants of luxury, and many other used only for the rich in the world, and only built buildings of departments decent but austere, cities are reduced by more than 50 % of size. I.e. use only the current 50 % World.
If they apply modern techniques of agriculture as the aeroponics and hydroponics and others, is reduced by 50 % the space devoted to sow and a 50 % energy and water used.
If it fails to produce millions of metrics tons of cement, steel, aluminum and glass for luxury items used only by millionaires (5 percent or less of the population), it could eradicate hunger, disease curable and lack of basic education throughout the world's population in the next 100 years.
It should be recalled that for every ton of steel, aluminum, plastic, cement and glass and many other dedicated only to the rich, requires more than 25 cubic meters of water and a large amount of energy (electrical and distilled petroleum products).
With regard to the organic waste of human, do not have to worry about much, since van to the sea or should be transformed as fertilizer, after deal with them, in the sea there trillion organism that require or transform them and are so many that our organic waste do not represent a threat since, they are not more than 3 % of total that generate marine organisms.
Since then, for all this, it requires a dramatic change of lifestyle of the millionaires around the world, where renounce all their waste, waste and lifestyle ostentatious. As many we predict, this will never happen, because they have been and will continue educated by generations in the waste and the ostentation maximum possible.
In other words, all of these products and services banal, which used indiscriminately the class dominant or operator, the make you feel, that are better people, which are more than the others, which are remarkable and which are also selfish and only believe in themselves.
These class elite bet to survive to climate change caused by its peculiar style of life and hides with all their strength the real cause.
They place bets possessors of great wealth to survive in their shelters or Bunkers, which is why many have already been buying large tracts of land in those places in the world, where the models predict that climate change will be less or slower, as in the Argentine Patagonia.
The responsible:
500 PEOPLE WITH ANNUAL revenues increased to $100,000,000.00 DLLs)
7.7 million people class GIGA ELITE in the world WITH ASSETS OF $ 41,000,000,000,000.00 (41 TRILLION DLLs)
65 million class elite in the world WITH ANNUAL REVENUE TOTALS MORE THAN $15,000,000,000,000.00 or 15 TRILLION DLLs
The forgotten:
80 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 5.200 WITH LESS THAN 10 DLLs (PPC)
40 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 2.600 WITH LESS THAN 2 DLLs (PPC)
1.232 CHILDREN DIE PER HOUR (10.800 IN 2004) BY HUNGER OR CURABLE DISEASE
Notes:
Figures and estimates of total energy required and approximate 90 % ( - 10%).
Some examples: Suppose 100 million, or 200 million citizens elite class in the world class elite = assets of more than 41 billion and annual revenues exceeding 15 billion dollars
And half are women or man.
We can build on the style of life of a woman from New York, USA or stereotype based on for example, the TV series american's "Sex on the City" and wanted, these women have (among thousands of products), for example:
20 Pairs of shoes every five years or less.
They are two thousand or four billion pairs. That of course are old entropy (internal) and the change every five years or less on average. I.e. during the last 20 years, are eight thousand or sixteen thousand million pairs of shoes.
These billions of slippers require energy and resources for its investigation (multiple materials, machines, facilities and several hundreds or more of products or services), and for its design, for their production and marketing, for use during his lifetime and up for recycling and final destruction.
Also, as in the case of cars, this class elite like to have at least one in its power and moving quickly to wherever. I.e. would have 100 to 200 million cars, which will also make old entropy (internal) every five years or less. I.e. would, of 400 to 800 million cars in the last 20 years
The amount of steel, aluminum, rubber, plastics, glass and others can also be calculated, even the consumption of water per TM, or electric power or transport national or global of millions of tonnes intended for cars.
The foregoing applies also to airplanes, TV, computers, printers, books, cosmetics, submarines and ships of defense, rockets, telephones, music and songs, furniture desks of precious woods of rain forests, jewelry, luxury hotels, racing cars and while, are thousands of calculations of total energy used or total water consumed or fossil fuel burning total, etc. these are relatively easy to obtain, with only have the time.
In other words, are not a knowledge of border, complex or is not known since the “Second Law of Thermodynamics” or Entropy. AND any University or Institute can calculate without major problems.
It has been considered that humans with less than two dollars ASF do not have access to all this products and (2.400 Million citizens of the world with less than $2 a day) and (5.200 with less than $10 per day).
There are some subtleties" of the calculations as for example:
Calculate the total energy used in research, design, production and implementation of the lines of painting present on the floor of parking public, houses, condominiums luxury of the world, designed to draw where parking your car. Consider five years (entropy internal) of life or less and during the last 20 years.
Seems less the problem but the results of millions of liters of paint, brushes, cans, labels, facilities, materials, time, etc. required are astounding and giant, and also those of the total energy.
OR for example:
In the US there are 10 nuclear guiding with just 20 miles in Rford, Washington, which were built in the 50, 60 and 70's and operated to its maximum capacity to produce “plutonium”, and with more than 50 thousand human workers, today are closed.
Think of new less the problem but the results of billions of dollars, or millions of tons of cement, metals, cables, pipelines, meals, houses, roads and hundreds of thousands of products and total energy are astounding and giant.
AND many others, but with some tenacity, any University can obtain and test.
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - Admin_phpbb3_import1 - 11-11-2008
Hi Mario De Sandozequi
You are posting some really long messages...
Great posts by the way, very informative but few people will read them to the end because few have so much time time.
If you want real conversation so that people reply to your posts you can start with short post that contain the essence and then develop the topic during conversation.
Mario De Sandozequi Wrote:The waste of energy resources or current and historical, generated by the ruling class (less than 5 % of total humanity), i.e. the rich and powerful, is enormous and is the real cause.
I wonder how accurate is this information. Can you provide real life examples?
Thanks.
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - Benn - 11-11-2008
I remembered a philosphy saying that 90% of assets belong to 10% of the humanity, and vice-versa - the rest 10% of assets belong to 90% of the humanity. I didn't think about their impact over the environment...
By the way, what do you propose Mario? To cease living in comfort?
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - independent - 11-16-2008
Benn Wrote:To cease living in comfort?
I don't think he asked it. You see living in comfort is not necessarily a synonym to wasting resources.
You quality of life don't indeed grow when You bought 100 suits yearly comparing buying 10. We
really don't need jets our owns etc... It is all about our skewed values - To be valuated You need to
have latest and the best of everything.
There are people who think:
- a costume can be used only once
- It is normal when 50% of food You bought get spoiled (and trashed)
- public transportation (incl. airplanes) are for losers
- You need to have a Yacht more than 100' long
- You can't have only one car
etc...
I call that kind of attitude wasting of resources - and I don't think it correlate with comfort.
Common statement is that the more we consumpt the better economy grows - generating more and
more welfare. True - but we should also mention that this growth of welfare goes to the 1% of
population who already are the rich ones - not those billions living in poverty trap.
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - Benn - 11-16-2008
But I think it is namely this, independent. These people live in comfort only due to having a yacht that is more than 100 meters long, or due to wearing a suit only once etc.
You don't understand it and neither do I, but, if we get rich, we'll do the same things, I guess.
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - independent - 11-17-2008
Benn Wrote:But I think it is namely this, independent. These people live in comfort only due to having a yacht that is more than 100 meters long, or due to wearing a suit only once etc.
You don't understand it and neither do I, but, if we get rich, we'll do the same things, I guess.
I hope we have more sense than that
uper I believe they don't act like that because it increases their comfort - but more likely because
they think that it is the way mega-rich are supposed to act. If that kind of wasting becomes
depreciated - they will change their behavior - without losing too much of comfort ...
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - willyoumind - 11-19-2008
Quote:The forgotten:
80 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 5.200 WITH LESS THAN 10 DLLs (PPC)
40 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 2.600 WITH LESS THAN 2 DLLs (PPC)
1.232 CHILDREN DIE PER HOUR (10.800 IN 2004) BY HUNGER OR CURABLE DISEASE
Although it's hard to admit, but the rich get richer and the poor get poorer than ever before...
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - Mario De Sandozequi - 11-24-2008
Admin Wrote:Hi Mario De Sandozequi
You are posting some really long messages...
Great posts by the way, very informative but few people will read them to the end because few have so much time time.
If you want real conversation so that people reply to your posts you can start with short post that contain the essence and then develop the topic during conversation.
Mario De Sandozequi Wrote:The waste of energy resources or current and historical, generated by the ruling class (less than 5 % of total humanity), i.e. the rich and powerful, is enormous and is the real cause.
I wonder how accurate is this information. Can you provide real life examples?
Thanks.
Thanks Mr.
Yes, I can provide real life examples. and I can provide the energy and polution of the waste generated by the ruling class in 55 years. (1950 to 2005), and Entropy of system (capitalism).
Re: Population Control or control of the wastage of the ruling c - M.Helen - 02-03-2009
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Since then, for all this, it requires a dramatic change of lifestyle of the millionaires around the world, where renounce all their waste, waste and lifestyle ostentatious[/img]
it's impossible to do. The richer a person is, the better he lives. It's impossible to forbid them doing something if they have money, since money means power