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CHEMIStry*? - Vinyarion - 01-24-2011

what is [H3O] in 0.70M HCN?

answer is 1.9x10^-5, how do you figure out?


Re: CHEMIStry*? - MaryRWebb - 01-24-2011

You need Ka to solve it. My book (Zuhmdahl, 5th ed.) says it is 6.2 X 10^-10.

HCN = H+ + CN-

Let "X" equal [H+] and [CN-].

Ka = [H+][CN-] / [HCN] = 6.2 X 10^-10

X^2 / 0.70 = 6.2 X10^-10

X^2 = 4.34 X 10^-10

X = ( 4.34 X 10^-10)^0.5

X = 2.08 X 10^-5

So [H+] = [H3O+] = 2.08 X 10^-5 M

The slight difference in answers is probably because your textbook has a different Ka value for HCN.


Re: CHEMIStry*? - Jaz34 - 01-24-2011

Ka for HCN = 6.0x10^-10
Ka = [H+][CN-]/[HCN]
after X moles/l have dissociated the concentrations are-
[H+] = X
[CN-] = X
[HCN] = 0.70 - X
Since Ka is very small, we know X >> 0.70, so we can assume [HCN] = 0.70 (to 2 significant figures)
6.0x10^-10 = X^2 / 0.70
4.2x10^-10 = X^2
X = 2.0x10^-5
Perhaps your textbook gives a different value of Ka.
1.9x10^-5 would be the correct answer if the value of Ka was 5.2x10^-10
1.9x10^-5 would be the correct answer if Ka = 6.0x10^-10 and the concentration of HCN was 0.60 M (not 0.70 M)