Kosovo's independence...

[europa]

If independence is needed to defend the lives of the people that live in the region - that is a fair cause.
But if it is needed just to be proud that one is independent... doesn't make much sense to me.

[Ofelia]

If independence is needed to defend the lives of the people that live in the region - that is a fair cause.
But if it is needed just to be proud that one is independent... doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree, but to serbs ultranationalism it is always related with something else unfortunately :|

[Srpkinja]

Catalog of Destroyed and Desecrated Churches
in Kosovo and Metohia (June-October 1999)

1.
The Holy Trinity Monastery before destruction


The view of the destroyed church and the burned residental quarters

The Monastery of the Holy Trinity was built in the 14th century on the Rusinica hill above Musutiste, 2 km to the south. In the valuable collection of manuscripts from 14 th to 18 th century there were a Book of Commemoration from 1465 and a hand-written Gospel from the 14 th century. The monastery also had a collection of icons from the 19th century -- 1868-1985.

In the second half of June 1999, after the German KFOR troops deployed in the area, Albanian extremists vandalized this holy place and plundered the valuables. Between 10th and 17th July they dynamited the monastery church so that it is now completely destroyed. The monastery konak (residential quarters) was previously burned to the ground. The valuable library, and its icons, disappeared in the flames and wreckage. The church was obviously destroyed by explosive used by experts with military training.

2.The church of the Holy Virgin Hodegetria was built as a foundation by Dragoslav, the then chief court governor, and his family, in 1315, in Musutiste, about 10 km to the south-east of Suva Reka. The founder's inscription above the entrance was one of the oldest and most beautiful Serbian epigraphic texts of its kind. It was an edifice with a semi-dome, had an inscribed cross in the ground plan and a semi-round apse. The wall was built of alternating rows of bricks and stone cubes. The frescoes of the Musutiste School, painted between 1316 and 1320 and famed for their plasticity and the saints' typology were known as the best examples of Serbian art. That earned them a place in the company of other mature artistic works of the Palaeologus era from the first quarter of the 14th century. In the altar area there was a unique portrait of the South-Slav educator, St Clement of Ohrid. In the north-western corner of the naos there were figures of holy women, the warriors SS Theodore Tyro and Theodore Stratilates, angels, and St Paneteleimon. Two throne icons of Christ and The Holy Virgin dated back to the year 1603.


The church before destruction




The parish house destroyed by fire



Destroyed frescoes (1316-1320): unknown martyr, unknown saint, St Panteleimon, St Clement of Ohrid, St Theodore; also, desecrated icon of Christ (1603)

After the arrival of the German KFOR forces, and after the evacuation of the Serbian population from the area (15th to 20th June 1999), the church was desecrated, vandalized and looted by the local Albanian villagers. The home of the priest, and the parish house, were looted and set on fire. Early in June, the church was destroyed by explosive.

3 ST MARK'S OF KORISA MONASTERY, Korisa near Prizren
4 ST GABRIEL'S MONASTERY, Binac near Vitina
5 DEVIC MONASTERY near Srbica
6 ST UROS'S MONASTERY, Sarenik, G. Nerodimlje
7 THE MONASTERY OF ST ARCHANGELS, Gornje Nerodimlje
8 ST NICHOLAS' OF THE SUMMER CHURCH, Donje Nerodimlje
9 ST STEPHEN CHURCH, Donje Nerodimlje
10 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Dolac near Klina
11 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Slovinje near Lipljan
12 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER and PAUL, Suva Reka
13 THE HOLY TRINITY CHURCH, Petric near Pec
14 THE HOLY VIRGIN CHURCH, Belo Polje near Pec
15 ST UROS'S CATHEDRAL, Urosevac
16 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, Vucitrn
17 ST JOHN THE BAPTIST CHURCH, Samodreza near Vucitrn
18 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Drsnik near Pec
19 THE HOLY VIRGIN CHURCH, Naklo near Pec
20 THE HOLY TRINITY CHURCH, Velika Reka near Vucitrn
21 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLES, Petrovac near Kos. Kamenica
22 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Podgorce, near Vitina
23 ST JOHN THE BAPTIST CHURCH, Pecka Banja
24 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Djurakovac near Pec I
25 THE HOLY TRINITY CATHEDRAL, Djakovica
26 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Osojane near Pec
27 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, Bistrazin near Djakovica
28 ST DEMETRIOS' CHURCH, Siga near Pec
29 ST ELIJAH'S PARISH CHURCH, Zegra near Gnjilane
30 THE CHURCH OF HOLY COSMAS AND DAMIAN, Novake near Prizren
31 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Veliko Krusevo
32 ZOCISTE MONASTERY & THE CHURCH OF HOLY COSMAS AND DAMIAN
33 THE PARISH CHURCH, Grmovo near Vitina
34 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Kijevo near Klina
35 ST MARK'S CHURCH, Klina
36 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Ljubizda near Prizren
37 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, Ljubizda near Prizren
38 PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Dobrcane near Gnjilane
39 THE CATHEDRAL CHURCH OF CHRIST THE SAVIOR, Pristina
40 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, Smac near Prizren
41 THE CHURCH OF ST BASIL THE GREAT, Srbica near Prizren
42 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Zaskok near Urosevac I
43 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, of Gatnje near Urosevac I
44 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Donje Nerodimlje
45 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, the Nekodim near Urosevac
46 THE CHURCH OF HOLY PETER AND PAUL, Talinovac near Urosevac
47 THE HOLY TRINITY CHURCH, Babljak near Urosevac
48 THE CHURCH OF THE BIRTH OF HOLY VIRGIN, Softovic near Urosevac
49 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY PROPHET ELIJAH, Kacanik
50 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY VIRGIN, Korisa near Prizren
51 ST JEREMIAH'S CHURCH, Grebnik near Klina
52 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY KNEZ LAZAR, Kos near Istok
53 THE HOLY TRINITY CHURCH, Zitinje near Vitina
54 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Klokot near Vitina
55 ST LAZAR CHURCH, Belica near Istok
56 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY PROPHET ELIJAH, Pomazatin
57 ST GEORGE'S CHURCH, Rudnik near Srbica
58 THE HOLY TRINITY CHURCH, Donja Ratisa near Decani
59 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLE LUKE, Vitomirica near Pec
60 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, Podujevo
61 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLES, Gornja Pakastica near Podujevo
62 A PARACCLESION at the Serb cemetery, Kosovska Mitrovica
63 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL, Istok
64 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Prizren
65 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY SAVIOUR, Dvorani near Musutiste
66 ST ELIJAH'S CHURCH, of Lokvice near Prizren
67 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY KNEZ LAZAR, Piskote near Djakovica
68 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Binac near Vitina
69 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, Gojbulja near Vucitrn
70 ST NICHOLAS' CHURCH, Stimlje
71 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY ARCHANGEL, Stimlje
73 ST PARASCEVA'S CHURCH, near Musutiste
74 THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY ARCHANGEL, Musutiste
75 THE KOSOVO BATTLE MEMORIAL
76 THE CHURCH in Gornji Zakut near Podujevo

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kosova is democratic EU countries....????????????????


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A i ovo je veoma DEMOKRATSKI forum...Je l' redom sve SRBE brisete?

[Srpkinja]

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[Srpkinja]

A i ovo je veoma DEMOKRATSKI forum...Je l' redom sve SRBE brisete?

[mikhail]

Oraovica (Municipality of Preševo, Southern Serbia): Albanian Terrorists Vandalize, Desecrate Church of St. George
15. January 2008 - 11:29

Even though, in this year's Nativity Encyclical, the Serbian Orthodox Church had called upon all people to live in peace and to avoid conflict, this hasn't been sufficient for the Albanian terrorists in Southern Serbia. On the contrary, they committed a serious crime against the Serbian people and their spiritual and cultural heritage by desecrating the Church of St. George in Oraovica, on the most joyful Christian holiday - the Birth of Christ, just like innumerous times before. They forced the metal blinds and violated the church by entering it through one of the windows, after they had extirpated the church's cross, which had been embodied into the concrete of the roof, since no other roof covering could resist the Albanian vandals. What made them do this just on Christmas Day? It was their way of demonstrating their rude violence against the church dating back to the 14th century, for in the village of Oraovci (which once had a Serb majority) there is not a single Serb left since 1966. The Serbs have been expelled by Albanian extremists, who then desecrated and destroyed all Serbian graves in Oraovica, leaving not a single tombstone or monument in its place or intact.

[Srpkinja]

Replika:

E,Roki, ruka ti se pozlatila za ovu karikaturu :mrgreen:

Zasto imam utisak da ce me sad sipci brisu???

[mikhail]

Excellent work :lol: :lol: :lol: brother Srpkinja!
Kosovo je Serbia!
Romania support Serbia!

[maja]

Više od 70 odsto nepismenog stanovništva u Srbiji čine građani stariji od 65 godina i čije školsko obrazovanje je trebalo da počne za vreme ili posle Drugog svetskog rata. Vesna Fila, pomoćnik ministar prosvete, dodaje da su preostali nepismeni u Srbiji uglavnom građani romske nacionalnosti.

more than 70% illiterate people in Serbia is cityzen older than 65 years.
And older people is mayority in Serbia

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prilikom popisa stanovništva iz 2002. godine, utvrdeno je da osoba starijih od 65 godina ima više nego dece mlade od 15 godina!

[Srpkinja]

Excellent work :lol: :lol: :lol: brother Srpkinja!
Kosovo je Serbia!
Romania support Serbia!

[ShOrTcut]

Excellent work :lol: :lol: :lol: brother Srpkinja!
Kosovo je Serbia!
Romania support Serbia!

Mikhail my Romanian friend... :mrgreen:

[ShOrTcut]

e...a jel ce da me brishu ako postavim onaj klip kad onaj shiptar ima intimne odnose sa magarcem i peva? ja bih samo da pokazem kakva je to civilizacija...mislim...uklapa se u Evropu...i oni garant to isto rade...stoga, neosporno je da su evropski...pxaxa ...i zanima me da li je po evropskim standardima da se venchaju? :mrgreen:

[AuLoNa]

Catalog of Destroyed and Desecrated Churches
in Kosovo and Metohia (June-October 1999)






(1603)

After the arrival of the German KFOR forces, and after the evacuation of the Serbian population from the area (15th to 20th June 1999), the church was desecrated, vandalized and looted by the local Albanian villagers. The home of the priest, and the parish house, were looted and set on fire. Early in June, the church was destroyed by explosive.


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Oh poor you your buildings are destroyed. I hope you get a real look at the biggest distruction

Christian Persecution Report (October 1999)

According to Deutsche Presse-Agentur, there have been many previous examples of this kind of vicious cultural genocide. Serbs and Montenegrins fired on Dubrovnik's famous old town center in the winter of 1991, and Catholic churches were regular targets of Serb destruction during the war with Croatia.

For their part, the Croatians destroyed the historic Ottoman Bridge over the Neretva in Mostar in an attack on the Moslem cultural heritage. The Serbs destroyed all the mosques in the Bosnian town of Banjaluka, the most beautiful of them, the Ferhadija mosque being blown up in the summer of 1993.

Official Bosnian sources say that 90 percent of the 4,000 registered historical buildings, mosques and churches were badly damaged or destroyed.

For the most part these historically significant sites were specifically targeted to strike at the cultural heart of the people.

The Croatian cities of Dubrovnik, Osijek, Vukovar and Split have seen around 2,000 cultural monuments badly damaged or completely demolished. Zagreb puts the cost of restoration at 150 million dollars.



Oh and this is by christian monitory, man you are the biggest hypocrits on the faith of the earth. Shut up....... :lol:

Kosova is Albanian


Serbia is Siberia

[maja]

Oh poor you your buildings are destroyed. I hope you get a real look at the biggest distruction

and this is the reason for destroying? who is hyppocrist?

[ShOrTcut]

treba mi dobrovoljac, da mi prevede tekst na engleski, da kazem i ja koju ovoj kuchki shiptarskoj...

[mikhail]

Singurii vecini prieteni ai romanilor de-a lungul istoriei au fost sarbii si Marea Neagra!
Minoritatea romana din Valea Timocului cu toate ca nu are drepturi suficiente nu cere nici autodeterminare si nici independenta, mai mult a luptat alaturi de armata sarba, iar acum sustine cauza Serbiei-patria mama.
Autoritatile romane au declarat la unison ca se opun independentei Serbiei, desi Romania este membru UE si NATO.
Mai vrea cineva alte dovezi de dragoste frateasca cu poporul sarb?

[AuLoNa]

Oh poor you your buildings are destroyed. I hope you get a real look at the biggest distruction

and this is the reason for destroying? who is hyppocrist?

you are maya, as Serbs destroyed catholic churches of Croatia. So be quiet with that crap. I do not say that destroying anything is right, but you hypocrites have done far more damages and hide behind the same buildings that you have destroyed yourselves.

Cheers.

[maja]

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AuLona...people...serbian people in Croatia.

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Velika Hoca

[maja]

The Serbs at that time were the "Catholic" population since at that time there was only the "Catholic" Church with either Latin or Byzantine tradition.

there is no Catholic church..what means word ORTODOX?

[AuLoNa]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HgZFmWCfa0Y&feature=related

AuLona...people...serbian people in Croatia.

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Velika Hoca

The problem with you guys is that you tend to show other peoples faults but never hold up to your own. As I said I condemn any one that destroys even a building that it has no worth, but to say that you are so traditional christians and are fighting more than anything to preserve those buildings and turn around and do the same thing, shouldn't you show that better side of you. Again own up first to your mistake, and then turn around and talk about the others. How come in the Balkans since you have arrived has always been destruction and atrocities. Greece down south is not that far either, but you guys just surpass everything.

[maja]

So, you saying, only serbs telling a lies?

[AuLoNa]

The Serbs at that time were the "Catholic" population since at that time there was only the "Catholic" Church with either Latin or Byzantine tradition.

there is no Catholic church..what means word ORTODOX?

WOw there's no Catholic churches, are you for real. You guys leave in denial, I feel sorry sometimes.

[maja]

i znaci, svi mogu da pricaju o svojim spaljenim crkvama, dzamijama, sinagogama, grobljima....jedino Srbi ne smeju? :roll:

[Srpkinja]

O,jbt, koja je ovo koza...I izvinjavam se kozama zbog ove uvrede...

[AuLoNa]

So, you saying, only serbs telling a lies?

I am saying that based on what has happened during all the wars, you guys have had much power than anyone in that region, and have used the force in a more bigger force than the other nationalities that surrounds you. Saying that, if you start first the atrocities than people will get up and fight back, as no one will stand back and just look as nothing has happened while people are being perished. Again let me stress out that this has been not just an atrocity that just happened it has been happening since you guys came to the Balkan Peninsula.