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I can't because there were no terrorists in Tskhinvali.
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I am sure that many people will argue about the statement that there were terrorist in Chechnia.
The fact is that S. Ossetia was not the most peaceful place in the world long before August 7th. Georgian government used term Separatists instead of terrorists that's the whole difference.
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mika Wrote:I am sure that many people will argue about the statement that there were terrorist in Chechnia.
The fact is that S. Ossetia was not the most peaceful place in the world long before August 7th. Georgian government used term Separatists instead of terrorists that's the whole difference.
To follow your logic many people will say that Georgia as a united nation and a state has never existed. These territories must belong to Turkey
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Don't you think that you are blaming each other even though you have lots of common problems? No country is willing to give up territories just like that (do you know any?). Russia as well as Georgia is no exception. However both of you are justifying your actions but are blaming each other and whole world around you. You have very strong positions and it is great that you defend it, however, now that everybody knows how Georgians and Russians feel maybe it will be helpful to start thinking what to do next?
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mika Wrote:RusNeko Wrote:I'm not specialist too, so maybe neither you, neither me are right. While bombing terrorists, peaceful people are always dying too, unfortunately( Why can't you put the same logic to the Georgian-Ossetian conflict?
Peacekeepers you see. They were killed along with people and that is act of war, that was not officialy decleared but was won.
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SiD Wrote:mika Wrote:RusNeko Wrote:I'm not specialist too, so maybe neither you, neither me are right. While bombing terrorists, peaceful people are always dying too, unfortunately( Why can't you put the same logic to the Georgian-Ossetian conflict?
Peacekeepers you see. They were killed along with people and that is act of war, that was not officialy decleared but was won. Do you mean that if not peacekeepers Russia would not get involved?
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mika Wrote:Do you mean that if not peacekeepers Russia would not get involved?
If peacekeepers were not needed at all Russia would not get involved.(if there were no wars in 90s).
You see it is almost impossible to achieve such goals without people support. Russian peacekeepers are seen as defenders as our army, if it wasnt so we would not win.
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SiD Wrote:mika Wrote:Do you mean that if not peacekeepers Russia would not get involved?
If peacekeepers were not needed at all Russia would not get involved.(if there were no wars in 90s).
You see it is almost impossible to achieve such goals without people support. Russian peacekeepers are seen as defenders as our army, if it wasnt so we would not win.
I think I do not fully understand you. Peacekeepers should defend both sides, right? It can not be viewed as anybody's army. They can not take sides. Am I wrong?
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mika Wrote:I think I do not fully understand you. Peacekeepers should defend both sides, right? It can not be viewed as anybody's army. They can not take sides. Am I wrong?
Actualy they take sides. If one side is violating peace peacekeepers must help attacked side. But they must be neutral if there are no violations. There were not only russian but also georgian and s osetian peacekeepers with same duties.
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However, it's unnormal that Georgian president wants to let peacekeepers out from his territory. Actually, it shows that he prepares for new war. And I agree wit mika that we should stop blaming and start dialog, understanding each other. The life continues.
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mika you see, there were also georgian peacekeepers. They should keep peace as well. But instead of that they start shoot at russian peacekeepers. It was the first time in the world history when peacekeepers were shot by conflicting party. or do you think that it were russian peacekeepers who started to shoot georgian tanks and aircrafts with there light amo?)))))
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SiD Wrote:mika Wrote:I think I do not fully understand you. Peacekeepers should defend both sides, right? It can not be viewed as anybody's army. They can not take sides. Am I wrong?
Actualy they take sides. If one side is violating peace peacekeepers must help attacked side. But they must be neutral if there are no violations. There were not only russian but also georgian and s osetian peacekeepers with same duties. I think that was a huge mistake, to let involved sides to do peacekeeping. Do you really believe that either side would stay neutral?
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Eugene from Belarus Wrote:mika you see, there were also georgian peacekeepers. They should keep peace as well. But instead of that they start shoot at russian peacekeepers. It was the first time in the world history when peacekeepers were shot by conflicting party. or do you think that it were russian peacekeepers who started to shoot georgian tanks and aircrafts with there light amo?)))))
Eugene, I do not think anything we were not there, we really can not know for sure what was going on. As I wrote all I think that it was bad idea to let involved sides to do peacekeeping.
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Russian “peacemakers” burned villages of ethnic Georgians and carried out ethnic cleansing. “Russian peacemaker” sounds like “hot ice”.
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the globe Wrote:Russian “peacemakers” burned villages of ethnic Georgians and carried out ethnic cleansing. “Russian peacemaker” sounds like “hot ice”.
Russian is aggressor and not able today be at peace side
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RusNeko Wrote:GIORGI:
Google: Georgia attacks OSSETIA 1,600,000 results.
SALOMO:
Georgia bombed Tskinvali, and planned to bomb Sukhumi.
Google: Georgia attacks OSSETIA 1,600,000 results. or more after Russian 58 army start occupation
Georgia bombed Tskinvali after Russian occupation its right and also Russian 4s army bomb all peacful Georgia area tbilisi senaki and all Georgia
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You're funny. How long did it get for you to figure that google knows the truth about a war? :haha :haha :haha
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mika Wrote:I think that was a huge mistake, to let involved sides to do peacekeeping. Do you really believe that either side would stay neutral?
It helped to maintain peace for more than 10 years. But problem wasnt solved all that time.
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SiD Wrote:mika Wrote:I think that was a huge mistake, to let involved sides to do peacekeeping. Do you really believe that either side would stay neutral?
It helped to maintain peace for more than 10 years. But problem wasnt solved all that time.
Problem was not solved because they could not come to agreement or because nobody really cared? Maybe it was really the responsibility of world community (UN, EU, ets). They are so good at "expressing their concerns " when something like that happens, but in reality they do nothing to help nations to come together. it is so easy to put armed people in the region and forget about it. Peacekeepers are really doing great job by protecting civilians but how long could it last? Maybe this war was inevitable after all.
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If it will go on, the problem will never be solved. The sides must not be self-centered! We should start think of others - georgians, russians, osetians, americans, english - everybody. If we start, if we forget our idiotic ambitions, the peace can be declared!!!
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If it will go on, the problem will never be solved. The sides must not be self-centered! We should start think of others - georgians, russians, osetians, americans, english - everybody. If we start, if we forget our idiotic ambitions, the peace can be declared!!!
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I agree with RusNeko, this is one of the situations, about which, the world won't ever know the truth.
it is just another Kennedy.
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Yes, and i also meant that international viewing of this problem, in UN for example, must not be like "who is guilty, how to punish" but "how to solve and how to prevent".
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Russia made everything in 90's abkhazia and s ossetia conflicts not to resounded, and it happened so very few knew about this massacres held by russians in 1990-1992. BUT NOW EVERYTHING IS OPPOSITE EVERYBADY HAVE SEEN WHAT GEORGIA WAS RESISTING DURING THIS 16 YEARS, AND NOW EVERY NORMAL DEVELOPED DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY STANDS WITH US and they see what is reality very well so don'ttry to asserte kremlin lies, nobady is going to swollow it , so u better step back russia !! or soon u will be damaged by the Caucasian brave ppl, who is suffering from u all this last decades !!!
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GEORGIAN GAMBIT
The evening of August 8, 2008. Over the window of my apartment gagrskoy sparkling fireworks wedding. The same is so pleased combined 8 - the first of, 8 - months, 8 years.
I just came home and did not razdevayas, run to TV - "has begun!!!" Vklyuchayu television - satellite channel № 13 - "This is CNN International"… The opening of the Olympic Games in Beijing. "Be the first to know" (Learn first) - the slogan channel CNN.
Switch - channel № 14 - BBC World News. Inaudibility fine grey line running in the sense that the Georgian armed forces launched an operation to housekeeping constitutional order in South Ossetia. On the screen - chic fireworks in Beijing.
Switch - channel № 15 - hour channel "Vesti" shows the burning streets of Tskhinvali, the eyes of children, with cries of glyadyaschie in camera, voice narration over scenes "This is war!".
Back in May, I warned: full-scale war with Georgia would begin no later than the first decade of August.
Operation "forced Georgia to peace" in the region of South Ossetia continues. The huge mass of technology and human forces are emerging from the black throat Rokskogo tunnel and move in the direction of Tskhinvali.
The huge mass of technology and manpower proposes broke into Abkhazia, Sukhum grohochet volleys Black Sea Fleet warships and roar front and military transport aviation. This is already on 11 August.
Lightning disappointing and tough military action of Russian military forces in the Caucasus peace heralded the birth of a new country. We have seen the affected person George W. Bush in Beijing and nervously nods Russian representative at the UN Churkinu Halilzada American representative. We were surprised to learn that itself "Black Puma" - Condoleezza Rice, 40 minutes by telephone encouraged Foreign Minister Lavrov release from the hellish fire burning "boiler" command of the Georgian army brigades and in the composition of their staffs of American officers. We watched and were afraid to believe that our talks with Russia the West same tone of his wartime in Yugoslavia. Boyan and is not believed podvoh… Where?
Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin during the three days of bloody broke out of the country fear and (in some cases subconscious) æd.m before false values of Western-type democracy for the few. What do you think, dear readers, it is worth a blood shed by the Ossetian people miserable? Let us remove the blinders and look at the world through the eyes wide open…
Mikhail Saakashvili
Here's who really got to complete the program. The problem of young and "green" the Georgian president was that he does like to be independent, and enjoy all the benefits enjoyed by the independent policy of peace - French President or Chancellor of Germany, for example. He very carefully listened to hundreds of American advisers who, as Regent of young Tsarevich, monitored his every step. Played in soldiers dressed and obutyh on American money, move forward and backward beautiful military equipment. For one day drove from the country stroptivogo Prince Abashidze, for his stroke on the head.
And brought up to be kind to Washington and Europe, living in greenhouse conditions typical Caucasian vassal, over time, Saakashvili began to lose sense of fear and caution. The first step was the expulsion of Russian military bases from Georgian territory. The Russian base is not gone - they fled, crumble insults and spitting. Then began the humiliation of peacekeepers. I will not describe every fact in isolation - they are far too many. Saakashvili with pleasure vytiral feet on the form of Russian officers GRVZ. He received great pleasure, dergaya bear for the ears.
By generous funding, he is not concerned about the problem of inflation or the need to increase production in the country. All that he wanted, he had.
Saakashvili is well understood that the West is funding military construction Georgia to Georgia fought. This is for the people of Georgia, all these slogans for the restoration of territorial integrity; importantly for the West - trumpet and "full control". Control over the actions of Russia in the areas of oil!
Before the official opening of American military bases in Georgia remained just nothing, but……
Happened, what did not expect anyone in the world! Although some people are not only expected but also prepared for what happened on.
After the apparent failure of an unprepared assault Tshinvala in 2004, Saakashvili resumed its "soft" pressure on Abkhazia and South Ossetia. At their borders to build a modern military bases, constantly conducted joint military exercises with NATOvtsami. In the Kodori Gorge of Abkhazia not controlled by the Abkhaz authorities, were transferred troops, which created quite there yet another powerful military base.
Since then, periodic skirmishes began in the security zones, as the Abkhaz, Ossetian and on the tracks. Saakashvili did not pay attention to them, the more that his special bezobraznichal equal footing, and often in the form of more brutal than the "separatists".
Carefree life with the introduction of a pink house on the street to them. George W. Bush and musical fountains would be continued further. Sitting on American bayonets, helping powerful Uncle Sam in Iraq, Saakashvili completely lost the sense of fear and become absent until unparalleled audacity.
But once he tried to have just bought new toys in Israel - unmanned aerial vehicles (drony). The fact that Georgians have seen on video, which brought UAVs, plunged them into shock.
A Georgian borders in the west and north szhalas powerful militant spring, finished raspryamitsya at any time. The ranks of fortifications from the west, modern Tank and artillery from the north.
Over time Abkhazia month were immediately shot down seven UAVs considered virtually invisible to radar systems and air defense fighter aircraft. Since then began the countdown before the first shots BOLSHOGO Caucasian war.
War
"Pink" the boy against a backdrop of white and red flag. He loved his toy soldiers in the American ceremonial camouflage, loved beautiful tanks.
In early August this year on the border with South Ossetia to begin to rumble shots. Commander of the Georgian General Keshelashvili group, dressed in beautiful shape the American army, with his typical acid expression on the face, explained - shot Ossetians. Of all he is not afraid of a war at all. Brought up in the American tradition of contempt for the enemy, General acted as considered necessary. Gradually shooting in the region has become a constant; who fired first, saying it is no longer available.
At the Abkhaz direction was more theater. What is operetochnaya production with the shelling of buses with residents of the Gali district of Abkhazia, which allegedly went to the elections in Georgia. The Georgian side has not even insist that they were Abkhazians, as well as Georgian special services protruding ears very clearly.
During the summer of 2008 throughout Abkhazia zagremeli explosions. Initially, Gagra, then Sukhum, then Gal, people died there. Few people are aware, but covered with a wave of terrorist attacks and resort of Sochi - Olympic future capital. Only Adlerskom area of the city was at least 4 exploded, killing people. Another explosives was found in a shopping center in Sochi and the explosion in the village. Loo Lazarevskogo district of Sochi. All looked to Georgia, but to keep silent.
Saakashvili certainly felt this view, although his only accused in the bombings in Abkhazia. Rather than make a formal statements about the explosions in southern Russia and Abkhazia, he again decided to pnut bear, nameknuv that questions the safety of future Winter Olympics, when Abkhazia and South Ossetia will not be taught him at the MTNet with a blue kaemochkoy.
Of course, "pink" boy did not threaten Russia attacks, he just showed his upivalsya its audacity and impunity. The next NATO summit his country should have been closer to the North Atlantic military alliance. But his words have noticed…
In early August Ossetians evacuated from Tshinvala women and children. American curators Saakashvili napryaglis and tried to clarify what is happening. In Georgia, began to work actively German and American diplomats, who committed numerous shuttle flights in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The exploration certainly has reported that military preparations are made, and already seriously smells of fried. The Abkhaz and South Ossetian authorities have refused offers of international mediators, even though yesterday themselves insisted on a format of talks - face to face, on the European podium. West did everything to put Georgians to the negotiating table with Abkhazians and Ossetians on the conditions last.
All ruined "pink" boy. Initially he refused to negotiate on such conditions as considered offensive for themselves. Razbalovanny and stubborn, he first rejected the proposal mediators, retired from the soil under their feet. So far, German diplomats, encourage intelligence data, from all forces tried to enter into dialogue, Saakashvili simply began to shoot in the Ossetians. He saw no threat, and when I saw, it was too late - flywheel steep, and it was not stopped.
Saakashvili on August 5, alarmed scale redeployment of the Russian army at the borders, proposed direct talks with Eduard Kokoity - President of South Ossetia, which until then called the man criminality and unworthy of communication, at the peak of which has created and funded traitors Sanakoeva Ossetia.
6 August zapanikovali Americans that de facto administered by Georgia. They forced Saakashvili to make more concessions - kerosene pahlo already clear.
August 7, pale Saakashvili announced a ceasefire on the Ossetian direction. But Ossetians had not proclaimed, but suited to the borders of the Russian armada - 58 - I "Caucasian" army. It became clear that this is not a regional problem - Russia does not need a ceasefire and negotiations.
August 8, the West saw a new face Russia, which he has not seen since the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Anyone country capable of fighting in the skies of Korea and Vietnam, burst blockade of Cuba and to place its nuclear missiles there.
Throw the Georgian army in the Tskhinval - nothing but hysterics. For good, the choice was not Saakashvili, it was necessary to attack Ossetia and take her before the Russian army will Roksky tunnel. And Saakashvili hit…
But whether the 58 - I attack the army? Here's a question to which we have not received a response. Most likely, Russian psychologists clearly get Mikhail Nikolayevich vymanili and his…
Nevertheless aggression occurred, and August 8, a weak defense on the approaches to the city "collapsed", ran Ossetians. Here are some neuvyazochka arises here.
Run-they ran, but not as far as I would like to Georgians. Already by the morning on the streets of Tskhinvali does machines and burned the Georgian soldiers died in yellow shoes.
The army, which was taught to despise the enemy and cross through the bodies of enemies, uperlas into the wall and could not go further, preventing crews to carry out a mission of support comes from the right flank. That's when a hurricane and was opened fire on Tskhinvali, took the lives of thousands of innocent people.
Ossetians have to stand night. I think that they are not planning to hold Tskhinval. Their front line was to be a mountainous Java. But people have become stronger and not surrendered home town.
And by the evening of August 8, meaning to conduct military operations have already Saakashvili did not - the Russian army entered South Ossetia and began methodically peremalyvat occurs. Who were now need these hundreds of tanks, shot from the air with impunity entire SU-25 squadron? Georgian aircraft were simply neutralized fighter aircraft Russia, but few gunships burst to cover only the parts of Georgian breyuschem flight and loss from fire Ossetian ZRK.
The battalion tactical group of 58 - and linked the army fight 2 Georgian brigade, and shedshie flow through the pass troops eventually razmololi regular army of Georgia in flour dust and scattered on the plain. On the last day of fighting for the Ossetian capital with the Georgian side has already died reservists - were not reinforcements.
Today, much talk about the supposedly brilliant Georgian military operation, which for some took a couple of hours Tskhinval. This, to put it mildly, not so. Georgian forces were able only to take a height above the city, after which it simply vyterli the face of the earth. Full operation of Georgian ground forces has not occurred. Heights and later to cut the road zarskuyu Georgians were unable to. A shooting in the city from the surrounding heights of the "Castle" - does not require much skill.
Most of the Russian losses also accounted for a period of domination of Georgians at altitudes over zarskoy road. And only when in response to the Georgian shooting fired rocket fire installation "whirlwind" and artillery systems "acacia", Georgians to start rolling back. It was the end!
Frankly, I am disappointed the Georgian army. I frankly thought that the beginning of 90 stamps - not about x Georgians. I expect that the training and equipping the army will maintain a tenacious and persistent fighting competently. But never saw nor of any other.
Even the attack on the headquarters of 58 - and wounding the commander of the army and, at first seemed planned special operation, in fact proved accidental. Russian military convoy with journalists just accidentally run on a group of Georgian soldiers. As a result, short-fire contact both sides suffered losses commensurate, and only.
Georgia was not revealed no any noticeable special operations. But in that time has already noted the massive atrocities against the civilian population.
Complexes, and only…
In this very revealing what pause stood Abkhazia associated with the Ossetians military contract. Experts long wonder, when will the Abkhaz leadership will have a strong military assistance Ossetians, but from the republic came inaudibility signals, then on bringing troops in combat readiness, something about sending "thousands" (according to other sources of two thousand) volunteers. In Abkhazia itself, seemingly, were more concerned about preserving the status quo. Many did not hide frank frustration of disruption holiday season - the only source of income of local people.
The only those who took the problem and solve it began were the Abkhaz war.
Already on the first day of large-scale fighting in Ossetia, Abkhazia military elite began openly pressure on political leadership for the early adoption of concrete measures on which Sergei Bagapsh was leaving permanently. Tertii politician, survived the assault Sukhum Georgian army in 1992 at his workplace in the building of the Council of Ministers of the Abkhaz ASSR, Bagapsh was leaving permanently from the abrupt and aggressive actions against Georgia, even when the Georgian special services arranged bloody provocation in the territory of Abkhazia. If among the Abkhaz military nickname "Alibabaevich", Bagapsh slyl uncertainty man is not capable at the decisive step - a declaration of war Georgia.
Today it is clear that "uncertainty" President of Abkhazia has been nothing but good work otrezhissirovannoy Russian military and political advisers, acting on their own, to anyone not known until the end of the plan. It has become clear that Abkhazia allocated a different role - to seek torn 58 - and the Georgian army in the war machine kodorskom direction.
There is no doubt that the actions and South Ossetia and Abkhazia tightly controlled by Moscow, while the Abkhaz military discontent there was not accepted to pay attention.
Empire cause retaliatory strike
The task of the Russian military machine is simple as Kalashnikov assault rifles - the destruction of the military capacity of Georgia. Hostile country has not yet soon be on their feet and get the opportunity to arrange another commotion.
There is yet another challenge - to remove Mikhail Saakashvili. Justice and the Georgian president even called tragic. Of the "pink" boy, pet George Bush, from Misha - a popular young leader of a young democracy, propaganda has transformed it into a bloody Nazis, with kapayuschey teeth with the blood of the Ossetians. Nagliai young man, frustrated with the pursuit of Russian officers and cope hardship on the interests of Russia in the Caucasus, said "I remove Russia from the Caucasus!", At best finish in exile somewhere in the U.S., in any institute, teaching law and dreams return home.
Russian officers and stood uterlis pause. Revenge - a dish that is served cold.
Today we are witnessing, as General Chaban, which kicks inexperienced Misha tried driven out of Georgia, said Georgian forces ultimatum. The whole world is affected: where did remove and aggression Zugdidi police, who yesterday without fear vdesyaterom disarmed and beaten by Russian peacekeeper. Today, the marginalization they are asked to leave them at least Scheduled pistols.
Total
The Russian military machine show the world its effectiveness and efficiency. Electoral Russian military work, safely and accurately, both at the test site, to strike military targets throughout Georgia, confirmed the ability of the armed forces to conduct a modern war competently. In doing so, so far no mention of the use of improved technology in terms of weapons, although some samples zasvetilis in documentary chronicles.
The system of state propaganda created by the Russian side, brilliantly fulfilled its mission. During the night from Georgia was created an image problem, armed to the teeth with the enemy. At least three days a specially created group of media-fighters were kept in terrible strain all Russia, the leading television channels broadcast zavalivaya personnel destroyed the city and dying children. However, there was fully offset by information from the Georgian and Western sources.
Similarly in the first days of fighting for Tskhinval pieces created by way of the Russian army - osvoboditelnitsy Caucasus, which, of course, enough to affect the credibility of central authority in the Caucasus region and strengthen the state.
The information vacuum created by the Russian media skillfully, portions replenished the necessary information.
It is thanks to the excellent work of the media who have in one minute absolutely subsidiaries authorities, managed to avoid mass beatings of ethnic Georgians in Russia. Moreover, the presence of large quantities of the Georgian part of the territory of Russia was almost imperceptible.
This is all the more valuable, given how toporno bodies Ministry of Internal Affairs worked in the past, addressing an open house and the expulsion of Georgians from Russia.
The slogan - "We do not war with Georgia!" - Was mainly the Georgian people and the message was heeded by them. An example is letting Zugdidi and Senaki local leaders mengrelskoy province of Georgia.
It should be noted the excellent work of diplomatic Russia, which from the first minutes of the conflict, even a few days before the storming of Tskhinvali, began training in foreign policy front. It is thanks literate action MFA western (especially U.S.) diplomats have been without any trump on the hands and had to discourage from rattling off recriminations from Russia, rather than to organize resistance.
Ultimately, LC UN Security Council has become a proving ground in which Russian diplomats had the strength and flexibility of their western colleagues.
The political damage caused Russia USA at the world level, not just to measure. Losses anglosaksy who have suffered so huge that not even subject to valuation, though the dollar is still the main world currencies.
Please note, Russia is not only one stroke impact the so-called himself a slave "Western values", but also provided an opportunity for many European countries associated with the U.S. umbilical cord NATO to become more free and independent in its foreign policy. Hence, albeit hesitant, but already loud words of support from Italy, Russia, France and Germany - the leading countries of Europe.
Wrong to compare today's events with the introduction of troops into Chechnya in 2002. For Russian citizens in August 2008 - this is a new stage of development, comparable perhaps with the fall of the Berlin Wall, razvernuvshim country at 180 degrees. We now live in another country.
Already on the first day of bloody fighting, it became clear that the Georgian army was not sufficiently ready for war with the maneuverability of modern aircraft and Navy. The most that were able to Georgian military, is to saddle height and surrounding them with firepower to carry out a raid on Tshinvalu.
The example of Georgia shows how fragile and depend puppet regime without any direct (including military) support suzerain. Bad foreign policy of Georgia, with total absence of any domestic policy, has become the key to immediate collapse of the assembly Georgian state.
By creating a pocket State, the U.S. and its allies not to trouble the creation of a foundation the country - its economy. By allowing young inexperienced president of Georgia to play dangerous games with the breakaway regions, uncontrolled arming it, patrons themselves have laid a bomb in slow motion, which raznesla Georgia.
The tragedy of Georgia, of course, will become an example of how not need to create controlled by regimes and the conclusions will follow immediately.
Here are just feel sorry for those young guys-Georgian reservists who supported propaganda, came to the assembly points in the first days of war and tutus prisskih died at altitudes under fire installations rocket fire "Smerch".
The crisis in Georgia has shown a complete inability of western diplomacy to work without training - similar. Before every invasion (in Yugoslavia and Iraq) for years Americans were preparing public opinion, creating the image of the enemy, conducting political castling. But on August 8 West was in shock.
During the first days even the ubiquitous CNN does not lead stories from Georgia - were all correspondents in Beijing. Incidentally, this is one of the secrets of the Russian war.
Shock American diplomacy began to take place only at the end of the third day of fighting, save for when the final analysis it was just certain.
Inability to engage in dialogue with Moscow had played into the hands of Russia. While American officials thought as to talk with the country, which prevents erased from the face of the earth peace city, Russia does not particularly care about the methods of warfare.
Calls Secretary of State Minister for Foreign Affairs of Russia were in the nature of personal and often confidential. Lack of necessary action template, inability to quickly improvise and break non-standard opponent improvisation, all this led to the complete disruption in the ranks of Western analysts and diplomats. They took some time to realize what was happening, but in the modern world for lost time - so many missed opportunities. Russia asymmetrical response in action…
In any case, August 8, 2008 Russians, even those who never much interested in politics, awoke just in another country.
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