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Lor Wrote:You're right!! There is NO American tree, but NO Russian one either!! CONCLUSION!! These countries chose their path on their OWN!!!
Some paths lead to nothing good. If you see path that will lead you to end of mauntain you wont go ther. They are not blind kittens. Same goes for EU and US. NATO is dengerously big. You eager to give every country an ability to drag nuclear states into thier conflicts. It is path to no good. And NATO will just once do not protect them or will start war you and everyone else will newer forget, if even someone will be left to remember.
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[quote="SiD" You eager to give every country an ability to drag nuclear states into thier conflicts. It is path to no good. [/quote]
Good point  uper
I am backing neither USA nor Russia. I want small countries to solve their conflicts by their own. Otherwise, there is danger that a 3rd world war is unleashed.
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If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
"Europe should switch to nuclear and use the old gas pipes as sewers. The destination should be the Kremlin." @ a reader at timesonline.co.uk
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Lenus Wrote:If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
Georgia ceased to exist? did i miss something?
:lol:
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SiD Wrote:Lenus Wrote:If Ukraine is not received y Nato, it will cease to exist, like Georgia.
NATO 's got to decide, does it prefer a war next to its countries or Cold Peace.
Georgia ceased to exist? did i miss something?
:lol:
Yes SiD, are you happy? :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha
By the way what are you doing here? :banghead
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why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
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Terry Wrote:why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
I think Lenus meant that Russia will destroy, annihilate,devastate, nuke and after all that enslave them.  .
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There are over 10.000.000 Rusians living in Ukraine.
They don`t want any kind of ocupation!
Especially American plaything!
America is provoking WW3. :evil:
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Ukraine and Georgia have one chance: to join NATO! :evil
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And what then?
I don`t understand! If America wants `world peace`, why are they provoking Russia??? :banghead
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Russians, why are you provoking the world? Georgia and Ukraina are free countries. :evil:
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Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
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PATKO, I think you are under Russian propaganda influence! :geek:
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No! I`m not!
But you are under `western` propaganda!
How you explain that `EU-USA` jurnalists were in Georgia, during conflict in Osetia???
How could they report about events in Osetia??? :banghead
And why they didn`t reported when Georgia attacked??? Nooo they started reporting after Russia RETORTED!!! :evil
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Already joined it.. :-)
I think soon it will be announced formally..
This is madness!
Madness???
This is GEORGIAA!!!
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I don't like Americans and I don't like Russians and their hegemonic foreign policies.
I don't like separatists like Kosovars, Ossetians, Abhazians....and their leaders business!
We don't need wars for nothing! :evil
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PATKO Wrote:There are over 10.000.000 Rusians living in Ukraine.
They don`t want any kind of ocupation!
Especially American plaything!
America is provoking WW3. :evil:
The Ukrainian government won't take into consideration the opinion of those 10,000,000 pro-Russians living in Ukraine. The Ukrainian population is divided into two parts: first (mostly the western part) wants to be the USA's ally, another (eastern part) - Russia's.
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SiD Wrote:Terry Wrote:why should Georgia and Ukraine cease to exist if they don't join NATO?
I think Lenus meant that Russia will destroy, annihilate,devastate, nuke and after all that enslave them. .
Exactly! Nuking is impossible, Georgia is so small, that Turkey ay get touched, Russia itself, and what it used to be called Abhazia and S.O...
So only chance to survive is to Join Nato.
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PATKO Wrote:Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.
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Hakan G Wrote:PATKO Wrote:Ok, they are "free" countryes, but why Georgia made genocide in South Osetia...few days ago???
In name of "democracy"??? :banghead :banghead :banghead
There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.
for you 2000 dead people don't mean a thing yeah?
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[quoteHakan G]There is no clear evidence of who started all this, so stop all of you make accusation based on speculated figures or actions of these two governments.[/quote]
Sakasvili will end in the prison, where he belongs...for genocide made on his own people! :evil:
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So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all.
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Hakan G Wrote:So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all. S Osetai WAS part of georgia so it means that Saakashvili ordered to attack his own people, i think this is logickal.
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SiD Wrote:Hakan G Wrote:So you're now saying he killed Georgian people as well. Please make it your mind and make a clear statement once and for all. S Osetai WAS part of georgia so it means that Saakashvili ordered to attack his own people, i think this is logickal.
Could you please make up your mind once again?
You said that Russia got in Ossetia because it was defending its citizens, now you're saying Ossetia somehow belongs to Georgia and is in fact its territory.. This is getting hilarious.
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Hakan G Wrote:Could you please make up your mind once again?
You said that Russia got in Ossetia because it was defending its citizens, now you're saying Ossetia somehow belongs to Georgia and is in fact its territory.. This is getting hilarious. Well ask Saakashvili or Bush is S Osetia part of georgia? What would they tell?
So if you attack Tzchinvali recognizing this city as yours you attack your own people, isnt that right?
Not every inhabbitant os S Osetia is russian citizen you know. Not to mention that russian peacekeepers "could" be russian cityzens.
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