The “direction” of the science

[Mario De Sandozequi]

Inside thousands of years such are immortal.
It's beyond our means.

Today and tomorrow our children are dead.
(1232 per hour by hunger).

For me, the death of childrens is more real, that the science of the future.

The “direction” of the science and of everything are determine by
the rich and powerful human.

And only develop the one who they want to do.

The impact of the "asteroid climate on Earth"
(estimated duration of the shock against the planet = 200 to 350 years, with early in 1850).

An increase of 2-C in global temperature of the planet mean:
"a serious conversion of some habitats",

while all temperature exceeding those 2-C imply:
"a collapse of the most ecosystems, including the human species".

"It is forecast (scenario or model A1F1*)

An increase of 4.8º C or more at the end of the century, and in the poles the increase would be 6.4 degrees or more".

The glaciers in South America disappear in just 10 years
Perpetual snows of Kilimanjaro disappear in just 15 years
Half of the alpine ice could disappear in just 20 years

The Nile river and the Amazon could not exist in 2090 or before if released accelerators of climate change as:
1.The TRIFLUORIDE (trifluoride nitrogen) will production over 4000 TM in 2008.
(In 2008 for the plasma TV and it is likely that this amount is doubled in 2009.
The TRIFLUORIDE is 17.000 times more powerful than the carbon dioxide (CO2).
2. And must join the methane accumulated in certain depths that could enter the atmosphere to the warmed oceans or to change the current Conveyor or another.

The thaw melt the polar icecaps in just 25 years a rising average temperatures between 1.4 and 5.8 degrees in the next 50 years.

Lead to higher in the sea level of between 9 and 88 inches or more flood of sea level inundate the three-quarters of the swamp Sundarbans, the largest in the world.

Part of EU, and large areas of many countries, with altitudes of between one and five meters on the level the sea, depending on tides, storms, deltas and other factors.

Disappear numerous Pacific islands and the Indian will lose the coral reefs.

The Southern regions, which have fewer resources, suffer tropical cyclones more intense and suffer droughts more deadly

Increased cases of dengue and malaria. The higher temperatures could alter the geographical distribution of species that transmit diseases

Diseases mosquitoes (dengue, yellow fever) , the ticks (Lyme, hantavirus, encephalitis) and the rodents could expand their distribution zones to latitudes and higher altitudes heat waves, floods, storms and droughts caused deaths, injuries, hunger, displacement of populations, outbreaks of diseases and disturbances ecological food security could be undermined in vulnerable regions.

The local decrease in the production of food lead to greater malnutrition and hunger, with consequences in the long-term health, especially for children to reduce the supply of fresh water, climate change could affect the water and sanitation.

This in turn, could reduce the available water for drinking and washing. Also decrease the efficiency of local systems of sewage, which would lead to greater concentration of bacteria and other microorganisms heat waves are linked to cardiovascular diseases, respiratory, diarrheal and other increased production of pathogens and aquatic biotoxins could endanger the safety of the seafood.

The warmer waters also increase the emergence of toxic algal blooms.
The largest CO2 content acidifies marine waters, an effect that could increase during this century with serious damage to the marine organisms, such as the corals and plankton and therefore, the consequent reduction of the production of oxygen.

Rise in temperatures of 0.4 °C each decade in winter and 0.7 °C each decade in the summer increase at the end of the century of the temperature of between 5 and 7 °C in summer and between 3 and 4 °C in winter To The top global warming is greater in areas of the interior that in the coastal increased frequency of days with maximum temperatures extreme, especially in summer decline of the rains.

Increase in the alterations in the terrestrial ecosystems with risk of an increase of pests.
Transformation of permanent to seasonal lakes, ponds, rivers and streams of high mountain.
Increase in the "coincides" and the growth of deserts
Increased losses in the vegetation of high mountain, deciduous forest the vegetation coastline
Reduction of the productivity of marine waters, and therefore the fishing.

Reduction of the richness of species of animals
Increase in the virulence of the parasites
Increase of invasive species Decline of 20% to 40 % of available water toward the end of the 21st century

Increase of pests and diseases forest decline of the profitability of the herds
Increase in the loss of beaches, decreased the average stay of tourists
Increase in the magnitude of river floods
Increase in the landslides
Increase the intensity, frequency and magnitude of the fires
Increased air pollution related to the particulates and ozone tropospheric
Increase in the extension of the possibility of spread of disease sub-trop

Increase in the extension of the possibility of spread of disease sub-tropical.

The melting of the poles has increased the level of the sea in 17 centimeters in the twentieth century, and since 1993 that pace grows to a ratio of 3.1 millimeters per year and in continuous growth increased rainfall extreme and more frequent in many areas increased risk of droughts in the continental zones in the summer

For the year 2100, the winter temperatures, in northern Canada, Greenland and the North Asia should increase by 40 percent more on the world average.

and more, more.

The responsible:

500 PEOPLE WITH ANNUAL revenues increased to $100,000,000.00 DLLs)
7.7 million people class GIGA ELITE in the world WITH ASSETS OF $ 41,000,000,000,000.00 (41 TRILLION DLLs)
65 million class elite in the world WITH ANNUAL REVENUE TOTALS MORE THAN $15,000,000,000,000.00 or 15 TRILLION DLLs

The forgotten:

80 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 5.200 WITH LESS THAN 10 DLLs (PPC)
40 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 2.600 WITH LESS THAN 2.0 DLLs (PPC)

1.232 CHILDREN DIE PER HOUR (10.800 IN 2004) BY HUNGER OR CURABLE DISEASE

[John]

Mario De Sandozequi, these are very concerning facts.
What do you suggest? What should be the direction of science?

[Mario De Sandozequi]

Mario De Sandozequi, these are very concerning facts.
What do you suggest? What should be the direction of science?

Mr. John:

Thanks:

Mr. John:

Thanks.

The only "Direction" of the science is to:

Control of the wastage of the ruling class.

Inside the great planetary emergency we face, caused by climate change, and which has been caused by 80 % or more for the rich class and dominant world, many focus to the control of the growth of the world's population.

They are wrong. The planet could easily withstand to more than 10,000 million people, if they had a style of life with dignity but austere

While this control of the growth of the world's population could help in something, such control not to change anything in the emergency face. While 6,400 million citizens present in the world is a problem of overcrowding, which requires great efforts to their survival; this is not the root cause of central problem.

The waste of energy resources or current and historical, generated by the ruling class (less than 5 % of total humanity), i.e. the rich and powerful, is enormous and is the real cause.

Under the capitalist system and imperialist, the planet cannot be more.

If every human had the right to have a car, a TV, library at home, 20 pairs of shoes, multiple cosmetics, multiple electronic and thousands and thousands of products ostentatious, surely we would have extinguished before 1990. The problem must be analyzed from a point of view of energy, thermodynamic and based on its second act: the Entropy of the system or economic model, social, political and energy,

If you join the energy and resources used from the Research, Design, Production, Use and until the Final destination (RDPUF) in armaments, wars, advertising and entertainment, could live in dignity and austere, more than 5,000 million human. With only the total energy RDPUF used in "Las Vegas", dedicated to the waste and the fun of less than 2 % of humanity, in only playing cards or to dice, you can feed more than one billion people each year.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) of nuclear weapons and guiding the world can feed, educate and provide decent housing for more than 1000 millions of poor of the world for 100 years or more.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to hundreds of millions of miles of roads for the rich, (there is a little more than 250 million cars with less than five years old, and in total a little more than 650 million worldwide, i.e. only 6 percent of the population have a Cars) can feed, educate and provide shelter to say more than 500 million, during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to entertainment banal, (drugs anatomical massive) such as: musicians, music, TV, movies, sports and liqueurs, can give food, education and housing and austere to more than 2,500 million people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to the sports entertainment, for example: in the USA and its series "NASCAR" makes 43 auto racing a year, where in each attending between 200,000 to 450.000 people. Each race with total costs of more than $1 billion, more football, baseball and more than 100 sports for the rich, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere to more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to all the computers, office buildings of luxury, desks, paper, feathers and all the articles that use about 250 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and which are productive, it could feed, educate and provide decent housing and austere, to more than one billion people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to research very expensive as "Cyclotrons", NASA and the CIA using about 100 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and that are productive, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to submarines, aircraft, warships, armies and satellites of entertainment or warfare that only serve to 100 million of rich people throughout the world, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, to more than 3000 millions of people during more than 100 years

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to aircraft and flights for the rich, (only in the US are made more than 20 thousand daily flights or 7,300,000 per year, for transporting "comfortably" to the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to jewelry, dressed in luxury, luxury slippers, cosmetics, magazines, feathers of luxury yachts, furniture of luxury and hotels and Universities of luxury, for the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years.

And more than 100 more examples

If you are planned cities, without factories products banal and useless for most of the world's population such as those above, without luxury property, without sports clubs of luxury, without restaurants of luxury, and many other used only for the rich in the world, and only built buildings of departments decent but austere, cities are reduced by more than 50 % of size. I.e. use only the current 50 % World.

If they apply modern techniques of agriculture as the aeroponics and hydroponics and others, is reduced by 50 % the space devoted to sow and a 50 % energy and water used.

If it fails to produce millions of metrics tons of cement, steel, aluminum and glass for luxury items used only by millionaires (5 percent or less of the population), it could eradicate hunger, disease curable and lack of basic education throughout the world's population in the next 100 years.

It should be recalled that for every ton of steel, aluminum, plastic, cement and glass and many other dedicated only to the rich, requires more than 25 cubic meters of water and a large amount of energy (electrical and distilled petroleum products).

With regard to the organic waste of human, do not have to worry about much, since van to the sea or should be transformed as fertilizer, after deal with them, in the sea there trillion organism that require or transform them and are so many that our organic waste do not represent a threat since, they are not more than 3 % of total that generate marine organisms.

Since then, for all this, it requires a dramatic change of lifestyle of the millionaires around the world, where renounce all their waste, waste and lifestyle ostentatious. As many we predict, this will never happen, because they have been and will continue educated by generations in the waste and the ostentation maximum possible.

In other words, all of these products and services banal, which used indiscriminately the class dominant or operator, the make you feel, that are better people, which are more than the others, which are remarkable and which are also selfish and only believe in themselves.

These class elite bet to survive to climate change caused by its peculiar style of life and hides with all their strength the real cause.

They place bets possessors of great wealth to survive in their shelters or Bunkers, which is why many have already been buying large tracts of land in those places in the world, where the models predict that climate change will be less or slower, as in the Argentine Patagonia.

Some examples: Suppose 100 million, or 200 million citizens elite class in the world class elite = assets of more than 41 billion and annual revenues exceeding 15 billion dollars

And half are women or man.

We can build on the style of life of a woman from New York, USA or stereotype based on for example, the TV series american's "Sex on the City" and wanted, these women have (among thousands of products), for example:

20 Pairs of shoes every five years or less.

They are two thousand or four billion pairs. That of course are old entropy (internal) and the change every five years or less on average. I.e. during the last 20 years, are eight thousand or sixteen thousand million pairs of shoes.

These billions of slippers require energy and resources for its investigation (multiple materials, machines, facilities and several hundreds or more of products or services), and for its design, for their production and marketing, for use during his lifetime and up for recycling and final destruction.

Also, as in the case of cars, this class elite like to have at least one in its power and moving quickly to wherever. I.e. would have 100 to 200 million cars, which will also make old entropy (internal) every five years or less. I.e. would, of 400 to 800 million cars in the last 20 years

The amount of steel, aluminum, rubber, plastics, glass and others can also be calculated, even the consumption of water per TM, or electric power or transport national or global of millions of tonnes intended for cars.

The foregoing applies also to airplanes, TV, computers, printers, books, cosmetics, submarines and ships of defense, rockets, telephones, music and songs, furniture desks of precious woods of rain forests, jewelry, luxury hotels, racing cars and while, are thousands of calculations of total energy used or total water consumed or fossil fuel burning total, etc. these are relatively easy to obtain, with only have the time.
In other words, are not a knowledge of border, complex or is not known since the “Second Law of Thermodynamics” or Entropy. AND any University or Institute can calculate without major problems.

It has been considered that humans with less than two dollars ASF do not have access to all this products and (2.400 Million citizens of the world with less than $2 a day) and (5.200 with less than $10 per day).

There are some subtleties" of the calculations as for example:

Calculate the total energy used in research, design, production and implementation of the lines of painting present on the floor of parking public, houses, condominiums luxury of the world, designed to draw where parking your car. Consider five years (entropy internal) of life or less and during the last 20 years.

Seems less the problem but the results of millions of liters of paint, brushes, cans, labels, facilities, materials, time, etc. required are astounding and giant, and also those of the total energy.

OR for example:

In the US there are 10 nuclear guiding with just 20 miles in Rford, Washington, which were built in the 50, 60 and 70's and operated to its maximum capacity to produce “plutonium”, and with more than 50 thousand human workers, today are closed.

Think of new less the problem but the results of billions of dollars, or millions of tons of cement, metals, cables, pipelines, meals, houses, roads and hundreds of thousands of products and total energy are astounding and giant.

AND many others, but with some tenacity, any University can obtain and test.

The only direction of science is:
Control of the wastage of the ruling class.

[Admin_phpbb3_import1]

I have heard of many rich people that are concerned about environment.
They install solar panels on their houses and drive electric cars which poor people cannot afford unfortunately.
I would say even more:
Poor people are buying cheap and used cars that pollute environment on a large scale.
Poor people buy cheap low quality goods produced in factories that do not recycle their wastage.
Also cheap and low quality products wear very quickly so people have to buy them more often.
And no one is recycling these products because the recycling cost is not included in the price.
So if someone does really care about environment he has to become rich to be able to make ecological choices.

[Mario De Sandozequi]

I have heard of many rich people that are concerned about environment.
They install solar panels on their houses and drive electric cars which poor people cannot afford unfortunately.
I would say even more:
Poor people are buying cheap and used cars that pollute environment on a large scale.
Poor people buy cheap low quality goods produced in factories that do not recycle their wastage.
Also cheap and low quality products wear very quickly so people have to buy them more often.
And no one is recycling these products because the recycling cost is not included in the price.
So if someone does really care about environment he has to become rich to be able to make ecological choices.

Mr. Admin:

Thanks v.m.:

Its approach is a half-truth, the rich will never care about the environment.

Product quality is defined by the manufacturer.

The product life is defined by the manufacturer.

The manufacturer is the millionaire owner of the company.

All products that use the rich have a short lifetime, "obsolescence" to buy new.

For example: brand shoes last less than three months vs. the shoes of workers that last 1.3 years.

Compared to cars, there are more than 640 million worldwide.
(only 5% of the global population has a car and many have several per family).

240 million cars are less than five years old. (only 150 million or 2.4% less than the world population)

These, owners of cars (2.4% to 5%) are the elite class or millionaires in the world.(not the poor and exploited, as you say).

Those who have a car with less than five years old have a TV, electronics, luxury apparel, jewelry, cosmetics, nuclear submarines, sporting events and thousands of thousands of articles ostentatious, superfluous and unnecessary for more than 80% of the population world, with only receives less than 10 dollars a day and 40% (2400 million) of humanity that only receives less than two dollars a day.

The impacts of the planetary emergency we face global climate change caused by the elite class, millionaire and operator of the environment and human being, by its peculiar capitalist lifestyle and wasteful of energy and resources in thousands of thousands of products and services ostentatious, superfluous and unnecessary for more than 80% of the world's population, it must be clear to all.

A millionaire class elite and does not mind the current environment.

They have chosen to survive in their bunkers ecological refugees in those places in the world, where the models predict minor impacts.

Can not therefore abandon the capitalist system and its principles of obtaining the maximum exploitation of the highest profits in the shortest time possible.

The extra effort that the rich world's millionaires and carried out within the environmental and climate, and children are useless and only serve as a distracting and marketing.

[Ivan]

For example: brand shoes last less than three months vs. the shoes of workers that last 1.3 years.

Can you be more specific, what brand? what kind of worker shoes? Maybe even provide some photos... :roll:
I know brand shoes that last more than 5 years. For example "caterpillar" shoes. But in my town few can afford these shoes.

And Admin is right about poor people buying cheap used cars.
I know a lot of people with average salary of $100-$200 per month that have cars older than 15 years old.
That are very stinky and pollutant when working.

[Mario De Sandozequi]

For example: brand shoes last less than three months vs. the shoes of workers that last 1.3 years.

Can you be more specific, what brand? what kind of worker shoes? Maybe even provide some photos... :roll:
I know brand shoes that last more than 5 years. For example "caterpillar" shoes. But in my town few can afford these shoes.

And Admin is right about poor people buying cheap used cars.
I know a lot of people with average salary of $100-$200 per month that have cars older than 15 years old.
That are very stinky and pollutant when working.

Mr. Ivan:

Thanks.

The dominant elite class millionaire and operator of the world (2%), almost all university remarkable 200 million or less, half women, each consuming more than twenty pairs of luxury shoes every five years on average, ie ten billion of luxury shoes in the last twenty years.

The 2400 million people who receive two dollars a day or less has "sandals" or “huraches” with more than a year of use. They are very cheap and consume very little power in their design, production, marketing and recycled among the poorest.

On the example here, please do not forget that only less than 10% of the global population has a car there is a little more than 650 million cars, but many have two per family, these are the kind rich millionaire the world that can buy a car.

Only 240 million cars are less than five years old, and are held by the rich elite ruling class millionaire capitalist exploitation of the world not to forget this.

Since this class as the twenty pairs of luxury shoes, change their cars every five years, ie have consumed more than 900 million cars in the last thirty years.

Please do not forget energy consumption and pollution of the design, production, marketing, use and recycling of these belts million cars, luxury shoes and thousands of thousands of products that use only the dominant class, elite and millions of the world ( 2%).

[Ivan]

Correct me if I'm wrong are you saying that:
It will be great if everybody will become poor?
And will wear cheap sandals for one year?

[Mario De Sandozequi]

Correct me if I'm wrong are you saying that:
It will be great if everybody will become poor?
And will wear cheap sandals for one year?

Mr. Ivan:

Please read this:

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF)

The waste of energy resources or current and historical, generated by the ruling class (less than 5 % of total humanity), i.e. the rich and powerful, is enormous and is the real cause.

Under the capitalist system and imperialist, the planet cannot be more.

If every human had the right to have a car, a TV, library at home, 20 pairs of shoes, multiple cosmetics, multiple electronic and thousands and thousands of products ostentatious, surely we would have extinguished before 1990.

The problem must be analyzed from a point of view of energy, thermodynamic and based on its second act: the Entropy of the system or economic model, social, political and energy,

Compared to cars, there are more than 640 million worldwide.
(only 5% of the global population has a car and many have several per family).

240 million cars are less than five years old. (only 150 million or 2.4% less than the world population)

These, owners of cars (2.4% to 5%) are the elite class or millionaires in the world.(not the poor and exploited, as you say).

Those who have a car with less than five years old have a TV, electronics, luxury apparel, jewelry, cosmetics, nuclear submarines, sporting events and thousands of thousands of articles ostentatious, superfluous and unnecessary for more than 80% of the population world, with only receives less than 10 dollars a day and 40% (2400 million) of humanity that only receives less than two dollars a day.

The impacts of the planetary emergency we face global climate change caused by the elite class, millionaire and operator of the environment and human being, by its peculiar capitalist lifestyle and wasteful of energy and resources in thousands of thousands of products and services ostentatious, superfluous and unnecessary for more than 80% of the world's population, it must be clear to all.

A millionaire class elite and does not mind the current environment.

If you join the energy and resources used from the Research, Design, Production, Use and until the Final destination (RDPUF) in armaments, wars, advertising and entertainment, could live in dignity and austere, more than 5,000 million human. With only the total energy RDPUF used in "Las Vegas", dedicated to the waste and the fun of less than 2 % of humanity, in only playing cards or to dice, you can feed more than one billion people each year.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) of nuclear weapons and guiding the world can feed, educate and provide decent housing for more than 1000 millions of poor of the world for 100 years or more.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to hundreds of millions of miles of roads for the rich, (there is a little more than 250 million cars with less than five years old, and in total a little more than 650 million worldwide, i.e. only 6 percent of the population have a Cars) can feed, educate and provide shelter to say more than 500 million, during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to entertainment banal, (drugs anatomical massive) such as: musicians, music, TV, movies, sports and liqueurs, can give food, education and housing and austere to more than 2,500 million people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to the sports entertainment, for example: in the USA and its series "NASCAR" makes 43 auto racing a year, where in each attending between 200,000 to 450.000 people. Each race with total costs of more than $1 billion, more football, baseball and more than 100 sports for the rich, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere to more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to all the computers, office buildings of luxury, desks, paper, feathers and all the articles that use about 250 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and which are productive, it could feed, educate and provide decent housing and austere, to more than one billion people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to research very expensive as "Cyclotrons", NASA and the CIA using about 100 million of rich people around the world to be seated, pretending that work and that are productive, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, more than 1000 millions of people during more than 100 years.

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to submarines, aircraft, warships, armies and satellites of entertainment or warfare that only serve to 100 million of rich people throughout the world, it could feed, educate and provide housing and austere, to more than 3000 millions of people during more than 100 years

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to aircraft and flights for the rich, (only in the US are made more than 20 thousand daily flights or 7,300,000 per year, for transporting "comfortably" to the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years

With only the energy and resources devoted (RDPUF) to jewelry, dressed in luxury, luxury slippers, cosmetics, magazines, feathers of luxury yachts, furniture of luxury and hotels and Universities of luxury, for the rich, i.e. to less than 5 % of the world's population) could feed, educate and give decent housing and austere, more than 500 million people during more than 100 years.

And more than 100 more examples

The responsible:

500 PEOPLE WITH ANNUAL revenues increased to $100,000,000.00 DLLs)
7.7 million people class GIGA ELITE in the world WITH ASSETS OF $ 41,000,000,000,000.00 (41 TRILLION DLLs)
65 million class elite in the world WITH ANNUAL REVENUE TOTALS MORE THAN $15,000,000,000,000.00 or 15 TRILLION DLLs

The forgotten:

80 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 5.200 WITH LESS THAN 10 DLLs (PPC)
40 % OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION OR 2.600 WITH LESS THAN 2.0 DLLs (PPC)

1.232 CHILDREN DIE PER HOUR (10.800 IN 2004) BY HUNGER OR CURABLE DISEASE

[Steven]

I think everything you mentioned, even though it looks artificial (as being created by humanity), but this is a part of our living system. Now, if everything was perfect and nobody died because of this "direction of the science", how many people would have now lived on this planet? :blabla