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Nana Chapidze Wrote:Alenika Wrote:Telling of truth and lie...
Do you know which country realy help osetin people with meals, water and so on in first days of the war? Georgia did? Or US? Or EU?
No, Russia did. Russia provide South osetia with water, bread, clothing. Russia repairs electricity, tries to reconstruct social building, and build for osetin people infrastructure where would be possible to live.
Question, why georgian government doesn't want to do the same?
Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.
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Giovane Wrote:Nana Chapidze Wrote:Alenika Wrote:Telling of truth and lie...
Do you know which country realy help osetin people with meals, water and so on in first days of the war? Georgia did? Or US? Or EU?
No, Russia did. Russia provide South osetia with water, bread, clothing. Russia repairs electricity, tries to reconstruct social building, and build for osetin people infrastructure where would be possible to live.
Question, why georgian government doesn't want to do the same?
Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.
:mrgreen:
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats USA helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Liliputinians...  uper
This is madness!
Madness???
This is GEORGIAA!!!
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Я Грузин, И пусть навеки враг запомнит, Что лишь тогда встаем мы на колени, когда целуем Грузинский флаг...
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Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.[/quote]
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.[/quote]
:mrgreen:
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats USA helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Liliputinians... uper[/quote]
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats Russia helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Saakashvili that like his necktie... uper
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Giovane Wrote:Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.[/quote]
:mrgreen:
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats USA helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Liliputinians... uper[/quote]
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats Russia helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Saakashvili that like his necktie... uper[/quote]
funny.. :haha
Ok Ok..of course my friend :haha
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But explain and prove your words..othervise you are a tipical russian liar..
This is madness!
Madness???
This is GEORGIAA!!!
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Я Грузин, И пусть навеки враг запомнит, Что лишь тогда встаем мы на колени, когда целуем Грузинский флаг...
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IamGEORGIA Wrote:Giovane Wrote:Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.
:mrgreen:
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats USA helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Liliputinians... uper[/quote]
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats Russia helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Saakashvili that like his necktie... uper[/quote]
funny.. :haha
Ok Ok..of course my friend :haha
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But explain and prove your words..othervise you are a tipical russian liar..[/quote]
Ok, georgian whore, what should I prove? Can you read? Maybe you don't understand what I wrote?
And in another theme I gave you 2 links about saakashvili. So open your eyes and give me excuses....
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Giovane Wrote:Nana Chapidze Wrote:Alenika Wrote:Telling of truth and lie...
Do you know which country realy help osetin people with meals, water and so on in first days of the war? Georgia did? Or US? Or EU?
No, Russia did. Russia provide South osetia with water, bread, clothing. Russia repairs electricity, tries to reconstruct social building, and build for osetin people infrastructure where would be possible to live.
Question, why georgian government doesn't want to do the same?
Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.
Giovane, you might be italian, aren`t you? Your comment seems to a quite far from the knolwedge of the conflict you have mentioned here. you have said that the USA tries to make impossible to solve this conflict... This simply, sorry but... loughing. In fact, I think you should get aware of, this is not a conflict between Georgians and Ossetians but Samachablo (called "South Ossetia"), one of the oldest part of Georgia, is an object of Russias` conquest intentions. Russia wants and does occupate Georgian territories Abkhazia and Samachablo. Russian troops have already broaden their military block-posts to the west Georgia. So, please, be correct.. It is said that Italy is pro-russian opinion but I do not want to believe it that it is true...
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Giovane Wrote:IamGEORGIA Wrote:Giovane Wrote:Well, tell me please who helps the osetian separatists with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , Russian Government. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, Russians.
Well, tell me please who helps the georgian army with military equipment to deepen the conflict and realize their criminal plans? .. Of course , USA. Tell me who interferes and makes it impossible to regulate this conflict? Of course, USA.
:mrgreen:
So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats USA helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Liliputinians... uper So what?
One friend helps another...whats wrong here?
At leats Russia helps independent, souvereigh country, and not separatists and criminals like Saakashvili that like his necktie... uper[/quote]
funny.. :haha
Ok Ok..of course my friend :haha
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But explain and prove your words..othervise you are a tipical russian liar..[/quote]
Ok, georgian whore, what should I prove? Can you read? Maybe you don't understand what I wrote?
And in another theme I gave you 2 links about saakashvili. So open your eyes and give me excuses....[/quote]
Gionane, you talk like a typical Russian ... May be, you are one? I guess it is so... You are so angry and evil towards Georgians that you even can not chose the correct words. Very sad.. Anyway, it is true that you repeat all the sentences other say but vice versa.. And if you like saying nothing but - repeated opinions opposited, and bad words, I have one question - why do you post here?
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You know Nana, this guy caused offensive (I accented this in his quote, you can see it)
my nation. So, I told him what he had wanted...
Now, discussion is not about for whom this territory does belong...
You said that "You are so angry and evil towards Georgians that you even can not chose the correct words"
But I wish that you couldn't see previous posts 2 georgians (Moderator deleted that). They publickly offensived a woman. So, only georgians could speak with angry and evil.....
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Nana Chapidze Wrote:Giovane, you might be italian, aren`t you? Your comment seems to a quite far from the knolwedge of the conflict you have mentioned here. you have said that the USA tries to make impossible to solve this conflict... This simply, sorry but... loughing. In fact, I think you should get aware of, this is not a conflict between Georgians and Ossetians but Samachablo (called "South Ossetia"), one of the oldest part of Georgia, is an object of Russias` conquest intentions. Russia wants and does occupate Georgian territories Abkhazia and Samachablo. Russian troops have already broaden their military block-posts to the west Georgia. So, please, be correct.. It is said that Italy is pro-russian opinion but I do not want to believe it that it is true...
The deal is not whom those territories belonged to but how you try to get them back. You pretend to be a democratic country but genoside which was made in S. Ossetia and would be in Abkhazia after it is not a democratic way . If each state starts to remember what territories its ancestors owned there will be a chaos and WW3. Just forget and calm down
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I have an impression that one georgian person has created many profiles to manipulate public opinion at this forum as the style and manner of writing are very simular. Admins, could you check coincidence of IP's to check my guess?
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EU1 Wrote:Nana Chapidze Wrote:Giovane, you might be italian, aren`t you? Your comment seems to a quite far from the knolwedge of the conflict you have mentioned here. you have said that the USA tries to make impossible to solve this conflict... This simply, sorry but... loughing. In fact, I think you should get aware of, this is not a conflict between Georgians and Ossetians but Samachablo (called "South Ossetia"), one of the oldest part of Georgia, is an object of Russias` conquest intentions. Russia wants and does occupate Georgian territories Abkhazia and Samachablo. Russian troops have already broaden their military block-posts to the west Georgia. So, please, be correct.. It is said that Italy is pro-russian opinion but I do not want to believe it that it is true...
The deal is not whom those territories belonged to but how you try to get them back. You pretend to be a democratic country but genoside which was made in S. Ossetia and would be in Abkhazia after it is not a democratic way . If each state starts to remember what territories its ancestors owned there will be a chaos and WW3. Just forget and calm down
The matter is, of course, to which state the teritory belongs because thousands of Georgian people are illegally displaced from the territoies and now the separatist leaders declare that independence is a will of the "South Ossetian people".. which ossetian people ? More than 60% of them live now in other cities as IDPs. Why were they not asked about the independence? ...So, you do not know what you are talking about.
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EU1 Wrote:I have an impression that one georgian person has created many profiles to manipulate public opinion at this forum as the style and manner of writing are very simular. Admins, could you check coincidence of IP's to check my guess?
......::  )) Very interesting..!!! In the latest weeks many people of different nationalities think the same because Georgia and Georgian people are so united and strong as it happens rarely. We all think and say: "Stop Russia and get back from our country!!!! Do leave us alone for once and ever!!!" Today we are making a "chain alive" supported in almost all countries and expressing our position with this event.
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Yeah you found unity and strength after war, better you could find wisdom to avoid it, and that could speak hundred times more volumes.
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SiD Wrote:Yeah you found unity and strength after war, better you could find wisdom to avoid it, and that could speak hundred times more volumes.
That would be the best what could ever happen but perfidious is our enemy - swallower of Georgians - Russia has dreamed of this war, He has long awaited the chance to finally destroy our country. Anyway, we will stay strong and try to protect our home-land. We will save our country and our selves!!!
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Well i am russian and i can tell for sure that no one dreamt to destroy, swallow or accupate you.(parhaps someone did but it is minority for sure). For what?
To acquire new small territory?
You can call russian media prapoganda but from first day president told that our forces wont occupie Georgia. I do not understand why every georgian is absolutly sure that Russia wants to destroy them. Dont you think it could be worse if we wanted? But once again it will give nothing, and would take a lot.
I think you must look a little closer to your current government. Were they successfull? could they avoid war?
What they plann to do next? What were thier mistakes?
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Nana Chapidze Wrote:EU1 Wrote:Nana Chapidze Wrote:Giovane, you might be italian, aren`t you? Your comment seems to a quite far from the knolwedge of the conflict you have mentioned here. you have said that the USA tries to make impossible to solve this conflict... This simply, sorry but... loughing. In fact, I think you should get aware of, this is not a conflict between Georgians and Ossetians but Samachablo (called "South Ossetia"), one of the oldest part of Georgia, is an object of Russias` conquest intentions. Russia wants and does occupate Georgian territories Abkhazia and Samachablo. Russian troops have already broaden their military block-posts to the west Georgia. So, please, be correct.. It is said that Italy is pro-russian opinion but I do not want to believe it that it is true...
The deal is not whom those territories belonged to but how you try to get them back. You pretend to be a democratic country but genoside which was made in S. Ossetia and would be in Abkhazia after it is not a democratic way . If each state starts to remember what territories its ancestors owned there will be a chaos and WW3. Just forget and calm down
The matter is, of course, to which state the teritory belongs because thousands of Georgian people are illegally displaced from the territoies and now the separatist leaders declare that independence is a will of the "South Ossetian people".. which ossetian people ? More than 60% of them live now in other cities as IDPs. Why were they not asked about the independence? ...So, you do not know what you are talking about.
You hear only propaganda of your and US government. Human life is much more valuable then any territories. Ossetians and Abkhazians have deserved independence with their blood shed.
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EU1 Wrote:You hear only propaganda of your and US government. Human life is much more valuable then any territories. Ossetians and Abkhazians have deserved independence with their blood shed.
Thank you for supporting the values of human life. It's a pity that very few understand how precious they were.
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I'm for human rights also! Hear, hear!
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Quote:That would be the best what could ever happen but perfidious is our enemy - swallower of Georgians - Russia has dreamed of this war, He has long awaited the chance to finally destroy our country. Anyway, we will stay strong and try to protect our home-land. We will save our country and our selves!!!
So please ask 1 000 000 georgians who live in Russia to go back home in this case. We don't need your mafia on our soil.
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[quote="SiD"]You can call russian media prapoganda but from first day president told that our forces wont occupie Georgia. I do not understand why every georgian is absolutly sure that Russia wants to destroy them. ]
How many times should to explain you!?! It was an INFORMATIONAL WAR too!!!!! Georgian Government decided to quarrel us!! Look. if Georgians knew that Saakashvilly attacted Ossetians, what would you, Georgians, do??? Of course, hated your Predident and wanted to reelect him. But Saakashvilly had a good plan: to attack Tskinval and declare that Russia attacked Georgia. Well, Georgians believed theirl eader. That's why you ask Russians why are you sure that Russia wants to destroy you? Russia don't want to destroy Georgian people! In this war our soldier sprotected Ossetians from Georgian aggression!
P.S. Грузины, поймите, вам просто не сказали правду. Я знаю, что для вас в это невозможно поверить: как Грузия могла уничтожать своих братьев-осетин? Но факт есть факт. Сочувствую, что ваше Правительство обмануло вас и поссорила наши народы. Мы в России солидарны с мнением: грузинский народ не виноват. Виноват Саакашвили и Соединенные Штаты, которые "дали добро" на такую авантюру.
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Ann from Russia Wrote:SiD Wrote:You can call russian media prapoganda but from first day president told that our forces wont occupie Georgia. I do not understand why every georgian is absolutly sure that Russia wants to destroy them. ]
How many times should to explain you!?! It was an INFORMATIONAL WAR too!!!!! Georgian Government decided to quarrel us!! Look. if Georgians knew that Saakashvilly attacted Ossetians, what would you, Georgians, do??? Of course, hated your Predident and wanted to reelect him. But Saakashvilly had a good plan: to attack Tskinval and declare that Russia attacked Georgia. Well, Georgians believed theirl eader. That's why you ask Russians why are you sure that Russia wants to destroy you? Russia don't want to destroy Georgian people! In this war our soldier sprotected Ossetians from Georgian aggression!
P.S. Грузины, поймите, вам просто не сказали правду. Я знаю, что для вас в это невозможно поверить: как Грузия могла уничтожать своих братьев-осетин? Но факт есть факт. Сочувствую, что ваше Правительство обмануло вас и поссорила наши народы. Мы в России солидарны с мнением: грузинский народ не виноват. Виноват Саакашвили и Соединенные Штаты, которые "дали добро" на такую авантюру. Putin said that this conflict is like civil war. It's true. My two good friends i've been studying with live in Tbilisi...
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Ann from Russia Wrote:SiD Wrote:You can call russian media prapoganda but from first day president told that our forces wont occupie Georgia. I do not understand why every georgian is absolutly sure that Russia wants to destroy them. That president said something, but the Russian army was already far away from the conflict zone with naval vessels in Georgian ports and air attacks. Is your army that quick every time? or it is just me?
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Hakan G Wrote:Ann from Russia Wrote:SiD Wrote:You can call russian media prapoganda but from first day president told that our forces wont occupie Georgia. I do not understand why every georgian is absolutly sure that Russia wants to destroy them. That president said something, but the Russian army was already far away from the conflict zone with naval vessels in Georgian ports and air attacks. Is your army that quick every time? or it is just me?
Interesting. It is gentlemen fight club or war? Lives are at stake so if our army is that quick it is good.
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Governments lie everywhere to justify their dirty business especially when it concerns a war.
We're endowed with brain to sort out where the truth might be in certain situations.
Getting back to the Caucasian war, after what the Russian military have committed well beyond the conflict areas pls don't try to convince me that the Kremlin was implementing some lofty ideas of protecting Ossetians of Tskhinvali. In Poti where no Ossetians live at all the Russians troops blew up scores of civilian ships and polluted the whole coastline with wreckages and oil from destroyed vessels; In Borjomi where the famous mineral water comes from they deliberately set fire to unique forests and as a result huge areas were razed to ground. Ecocide is a term the Russian actions have been characterized with. AFTER a cease-fire agreement was signed the Russians unleashed a real hell on civilian population of Gori and nearby areas where the invaders - regulars, cossaks, Ossetians - went on mass killing, looting, burning, raping and etc.
This is what has been left of Georgian villages near Tskhinvali: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS8ZjHNG5X4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS8ZjHNG5X4</a><!-- m -->. And the next step after this ethnic cleansing was the recognition of Tshkinvali area as an independent entity!!!
So regardless of how the propaganda from either side may intoxicate gullible people, our common sense helps us to see what blatant lies are told and crocodile tears are shed.
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