The Balkans: From Constantinople to Communism

[clearman]

Yes, I do. But said that for example to Albanians and Serbs, after Kosovo disaster!

[Faw_Peter]

Don't you think it's high time for them to leave behind their nationalistic attitude?

It's in their blood, don't think they can do that soon. It's a matter of time.

[Faw_Peter]

Romanians, I think, a little time ago also lived with the past, and were in some way nationalistic. But now they changed.

[clearman]

Romanians, I think, a little time ago also lived with the past, and were in some way nationalistic. But now they changed.

Still they have some misunderstandings with Hungarians (for Transylvania), but there are only few ultra- nationalists of both sides.

[M.Helen]

Do people from Transilvania speak mostly Hungarian or Romanian? Or it's 50/50?

[clearman]

Actually, in Transylvania they are 20% Hungarians and 75% Romanians.

[george]

Look at this map:

[Faw_Peter]

hmm... 20% is a quite big number. There must have been some historical issues which formed this situation. Are the Romanians getting on well with the Hungarians

[M.Helen]

In the past, Romania had a lot of wars with Hungary. For many years, Transilvanya was occupied by Hungary. In 1858 Transilvanya was returned to Romania again.

[Benn]

it was not once when Romania lost and then return its territories. This region in the past was teh territory of many and many wars, which left consequences to nowadays.

[eva]

In the past, Romania had a lot of wars with Hungary. For many years, Transilvanya was occupied by Hungary. In 1858 Transilvanya was returned to Romania again.

1858? no way
in 1000 Transylvania was occupied by Hungarians;
in 1918 Transylvania was given to Romania, in 1920 was the treaty of Trianon.

......a boneheaded video game maker decided to release a controversial game: Romanu in Spatiu (Romanian in Space). Its objective is to conquer the universe, and kill Hungarian separatists.
:haha

[Faw_Peter]

You're right Eva, in 1918 took place the Great Union of the Romanian States. Transilvania was then given back to Romania.

[Steven]

Sounds interesting to me Just kidding
He created this game either because he's a Romanian nationalist or due to his rich imagination. Are there Hungarian separatists in Romania?

[M.Helen]

separatists exist in any countries that had land division problems in the past. Unfortenately there are people who are mad on the history and its consequences.

[clearman]

Yes, they are. It's ridiculous that Romanian claimed Transylvania because they were the first inhabitants there (kingdom of Dacia-2500 years ago) and Hungarian separatists said they were related to Schytians and Sumerians (5000 years ago). :haha

[Terry]

Maybe we should seek the answer even deeper, 10,000 years ago? :lol:

[Benn]

Are Hungarians really related to Sumerians?

[clearman]

Are Hungarians really related to Sumerians?

Benn, the Hungarian language could be related to Sumerian ( I don't know Hungarian or Sumerian), but these theories were developed by Magyar separatists from Transylvania in order to demonstrate that they were the first on this land

Sumerians - the greatest civilization.....5000 years ago :haha

[AriRusila]

To clearman & ben,

I do not know about sumerians but I think that common theory is that hungarians are one part of fenno-ugrian group originally from Volga/Ural region. So finnish and hungary are same language group like also estonia, mari, samojeds etc. Theories about origin are related to question if one highlight genetic origins or language relationships and naturally probably all nations are more or less mixture of many ethnic backgrounds. :tas

[Balkaneese]

I hope EU will dissolve before it swallow us.

If it manage to survive and absorb the Balkans, we'll do our best you don't survive that bite.

[Steven]

how come that happen that two EU member countries have their languages from non Indo-European roots?

[Hakan G]

The EU community is based on a decentralized factor, and it can't swallow anybody.

[Terry]

The EU community is based on a decentralized factor, and it can't swallow anybody.

it definetely isn't. EU is not an empire and it doesn't conquer countries. It only depedns on the government's will whether to join it or not.

[romanu']

The Balkans are the homeland of Europe's civilization

[M.Helen]

And what if a country wishes to be outside the EU? Is it possible? I think when France voted against a common constitution it gave a sign of trust gap towards EU novice countries. It might become the first country to leave the EU.