06-14-2009, 06:00 PM
A Little News History...
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"France set to ratify Lisbon Treaty
Monday, 4 February 2008 22:55
The French parliament has voted to revise the constitution, a
key step towards adopting the new EU reform treaty.
The ratification comes nearly three years after French voters
voted against the former EU constitution in a referendum, but
this time its replacement is not being put to a popular vote.
Instead the Assemble Nationale and the Senate will effectively
ratify the new treaty."
If the people don't approve, we'll bypass them...
"The Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008
was a proposal to amend the Constitution of Ireland in order
to enable ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon (also known as
the Reform Treaty) of the European Union, so it could be
enacted as scheduled on 1 January 2009. As part of the
enactment of the bill, a referendum was held on 12 June
2008.[1] The proposal was defeated by 53.4% to 46.6%, with a
turnout of 53.1%.[2]"
Originally, the legislature was going to decide, until the court
forced a referendum, since it affected the constitution.
If the people don't approve, we'll TRY to bypass them...
"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands — The Dutch parliament's lower house
has approved the Treaty of Lisbon, a series of reforms
proposed for the European Union, by a wide margin.
The lawmakers voted 111-39 in favor of the treaty on Thursday.
It will now go to the upper house for final approval, which is
seen as a formality.
The treaty would reduce the number of members of the European
Commission, strengthen the authority of its president and
foreign policy chief and increase policy areas in which
decisions could be made by majority votes rather than
requiring unanimous approval.
The Lisbon treaty was negotiated after voters in France and
the Netherlands rejected the European Constitution in
referendums in 2005. The Dutch Cabinet decided in September
not to submit the new document to a referendum."
If we're not sure the people will approve, we'll bypass them...
Do I see a pattern here?
At least the other nations were smart, by not taking a
chance, and bypassing the people completely...
( Spain and Luxembourg excepted )
Now as far as I can tell by net searches, the Treaty of Lisbon
was signed on 13 Dec. 2007. To be ratified by the nations on
01 Jan. 2009 by the same nations that signed the Treaty.
That's what? One year and one month later? Not exactly a
lot of time for people to pick a newly elected legislature
in their nations if they disapprove, if there even were any national
elections during that short time. And of course, in most cases,
those same nations made the decision themselves. When I
say nations, I mean Governmental / Legislative, not the people.
What a surprise...
We have a saying here, " Don't worry... We have the fox guarding
the chicken house.". I'll make the Treaty. I'll sign the Treaty. And
I'll ratify the Treaty... trust me... you (the people) don't need to be involved...
Is this how it will always work when the EU wants something?
The elite businessmen / legislative buddies just make their
back-room deals and vote it in, while the people are left standing
out in the cold wondering, "What just happened here...?".
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"France set to ratify Lisbon Treaty
Monday, 4 February 2008 22:55
The French parliament has voted to revise the constitution, a
key step towards adopting the new EU reform treaty.
The ratification comes nearly three years after French voters
voted against the former EU constitution in a referendum, but
this time its replacement is not being put to a popular vote.
Instead the Assemble Nationale and the Senate will effectively
ratify the new treaty."
If the people don't approve, we'll bypass them...
"The Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008
was a proposal to amend the Constitution of Ireland in order
to enable ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon (also known as
the Reform Treaty) of the European Union, so it could be
enacted as scheduled on 1 January 2009. As part of the
enactment of the bill, a referendum was held on 12 June
2008.[1] The proposal was defeated by 53.4% to 46.6%, with a
turnout of 53.1%.[2]"
Originally, the legislature was going to decide, until the court
forced a referendum, since it affected the constitution.
If the people don't approve, we'll TRY to bypass them...
"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands — The Dutch parliament's lower house
has approved the Treaty of Lisbon, a series of reforms
proposed for the European Union, by a wide margin.
The lawmakers voted 111-39 in favor of the treaty on Thursday.
It will now go to the upper house for final approval, which is
seen as a formality.
The treaty would reduce the number of members of the European
Commission, strengthen the authority of its president and
foreign policy chief and increase policy areas in which
decisions could be made by majority votes rather than
requiring unanimous approval.
The Lisbon treaty was negotiated after voters in France and
the Netherlands rejected the European Constitution in
referendums in 2005. The Dutch Cabinet decided in September
not to submit the new document to a referendum."
If we're not sure the people will approve, we'll bypass them...
Do I see a pattern here?
At least the other nations were smart, by not taking a
chance, and bypassing the people completely...
( Spain and Luxembourg excepted )
Now as far as I can tell by net searches, the Treaty of Lisbon
was signed on 13 Dec. 2007. To be ratified by the nations on
01 Jan. 2009 by the same nations that signed the Treaty.
That's what? One year and one month later? Not exactly a
lot of time for people to pick a newly elected legislature
in their nations if they disapprove, if there even were any national
elections during that short time. And of course, in most cases,
those same nations made the decision themselves. When I
say nations, I mean Governmental / Legislative, not the people.
What a surprise...
We have a saying here, " Don't worry... We have the fox guarding
the chicken house.". I'll make the Treaty. I'll sign the Treaty. And
I'll ratify the Treaty... trust me... you (the people) don't need to be involved...
Is this how it will always work when the EU wants something?
The elite businessmen / legislative buddies just make their
back-room deals and vote it in, while the people are left standing
out in the cold wondering, "What just happened here...?".