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Lithuania decided to use its veto on cooperation with Russia
#26
I agree, but this is history. Countries must pay for their former leaders' mistake, just like Germany paid to the entire Europe for Hitler's war.
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#27
Yes, up to present Germany pays for the things it did to people. For example all Jews are allowed to enter Germany without any visa. More than that, they have a lot of facilities when they come to Germany. Maybe Russia's compensations consist not only in money, but legal facilities or things like that?
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#28
I think that's too much, even for the Jews. I feel sorry for the victims who died during the WWII, but I don't think Germany must pay for that up to the present day.
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#29
Well Andrewz, what can I say? We are all good to comment, but you must be glad your ancestors were not killed like the Jews were. Let them have these facilities as long as Germany considers them necessary.
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#30
Those who suffer once, will certainly have joy in the future. The Jews deserved to be treated more accurately today.
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#31
It seems that Russia is surrounded by countries who hate it: Georgia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. It's lucky to keep an ally like Belarus.
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#32
M.Helen Wrote:It seems that Russia is surrounded by countries who hate it: Georgia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. It's lucky to keep an ally like Belarus.

It is easy to explain. These countries are puppets of the Washington government. As for Ukraine it society is devided into those who support Russia (majority) and those who hate it (western nationalists including ukranian government)
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#33
Steven Wrote:Lithuania doesn't want the European Union to have discussions with Russia on a new strategic cooperation, why is it so anygry on Russia, it's a former socialist country, isn't it?

Please answer me, countrys parts of EU must think of thier ego first and about good of union after?
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#34
Well you know EU is not USSR..
Everybody is still independent
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#35
Steven Wrote:Lithuania doesn't want the European Union to have discussions with Russia on a new strategic cooperation, why is it so anygry on Russia, it's a former socialist country, isn't it?
Well i think discussion about new strategic cooperation is in interests of EU, if it is brought up doesnt it?
Well if it is not they could be just used as polite excuse like: we want to but cant becouse of Lithuania.
Wenn it is in interests of EU to have such relationship with Russia i can only conclude they are acting not in EU interests. Parhaps they own more alligence to someone else? or they just so selfish?
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#36
Do you think the EU had intentionally concluded agreed with Lithuania that it uses its veto, so that the EU doesn't do that directly?
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Benn Wrote:Do you think the EU had intentionally concluded agreed with Lithuania that it uses its veto, so that the EU doesn't do that directly?

Parhaps, who knows? why to worsen relations with Russia themselves if you can sacrifice Russia Lituanian relations that are bad anyway? The question is how interested EU is in this cooperation with Russia.
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#38
I can't understand why EU can't just cooperate with Russia. They can be very good friends. In fact Russia is European country even it have Asian therithory. People there are Europeans by culture. Maybe they are spoiled by communism a bit, but it will pass away wery soon.
The Gorgian problem is very clear to me. Gorgia formed new country after SSSR fall apart, but some of its parts wanted to stay in Russia. Sadly, the world must take care now of this unjust departation of Gorgia.

It is the same problem as Republic of Srpska in Bosnia which want to be part of Serbia and world do not allow that. In the future we could see the same problem there.
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#39
Terry Wrote:
sasha Wrote:I agree with Terry. But it was hard living in USSR. Paranoia, terror to poor people. Everywhere in USSR was like that, but some countries was thinking that they are victims alone. No, the system was wrong and nobody molested them specially.
There are no real reason for them to hate today's Russia. In past, world's constalation was like that. I don't think Russia was guilty for misery of that countries, but communist system which is now gone. Maybe someone occasionally misused a position for own purposes, but I don't believe that Russia as country wanted bad things for them. Look at Ucraine, most of Russian nuclear war potental was in that country, but they won their freedom without a war or violence. Russia give up lot of Europian land without blood even they was nuclear and military force which could be compared with USA. They must be respected for that kind of responsability.

that's correct: there is no perfect government system, every system has its own advantages and disadvatages. In soviet times, everybody used to be equal. People liked it, even if the regime was totalitarian. I know a lot of people who lived in the USSR, they are saying it wasn't so bad.

Terry,

Nobody really liked it. What do you mean, people were equal?
Did you live in USSR?
I did.
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Lenus Wrote:Nobody really liked it. What do you mean, people were equal?
Did you live in USSR?
I did.

And what can you tell us about living in USSR? How old were you in 1991?
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#41
EU1 Wrote:
Lenus Wrote:Nobody really liked it. What do you mean, people were equal?
Did you live in USSR?
I did.

And what can you tell us about living in USSR? How old were you in 1991?

I was a fully grown-up person, so I can tell you a lot about stupidity of living in Russian-lead USSR.
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#42
Lenus Wrote:
EU1 Wrote:
Lenus Wrote:Nobody really liked it. What do you mean, people were equal?
Did you live in USSR?
I did.

And what can you tell us about living in USSR? How old were you in 1991?

I was a fully grown-up person, so I can tell you a lot about stupidity of living in Russian-lead USSR.

Many people think otherwise.
But it is history anyway. How is it related with Russia EU cooperation? No one asks them to join USSR or something.
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#43
In this situation, the EU used Lithuania as a scapegoat.
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#44
USA are useing Lithuania for their own aims.In other case we will not know where this state is situated Smile. The system is working like this- :ange USA---> $$$----> "several countries"----> Bow!Bow!Bow!----> :heuu: Russia. Or another cartoon West :paladin VS :barbare Russia. And another one Russia with little,white and fluffy Georgia :monstre Smile
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#45
only ISA uses other countries and not Russia, thats the problem! but the difference is that u use and as well destory tham !!
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#46
Tamsa we didn't destroyed no one, do you know even one nation who was fully destroyed by us. I have to say that RF safed ossetians from the genocide. If I can remember UK and USA used slaves (black nation, ,fully destroyed indians of the North America ) And I can see from our side that Poland exist, Lithuania exist, Georgia ect too. Like one man said-" It is hard to be Jewish in Russia, but it is more difficult to be Russian in Russia. We have over 1000 of nations in our fediration, and they have still existed and live like all people in our country. There was war crimes, for sure, but not genocide from Russia in different wars. Can you show me such a country which do not had war crimes? Exept Monaco ect.
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#47
Both states - USA and Russia manipulate other countries for their own interests. Still, I think USA succeeded much more in this matter.

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#48
Thank you M. Helen! Smile I realy think that we ( Russians and Europeans) have more common things that we think. It is time to united as humankind, or we will fight against each other till the end of oil Smile So the last one cartoon special for you- :paladin + :barbare vs :diable = :oops :tas The New Earth--- Happy end Smile
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#49
some news about Russia and Lithuania relations

Lithuania warned Russia on Friday that it may close a key transit railway line unless a Russian oil pipeline to Lithuania is repaired soon, local reports said.

An undersecretary at the Lithuanian Foreign Ministry, Albinas Januskas, warned Russian Embassy officials that Lithuania could begin repairs on the Moscow-Kaliningrad railway unless repairs to a key oil pipeline were expedited, Baltic News Service BNS said.

The railway, which crosses Lithuania, is the main transit artery between Russia and its Kaliningrad exclave. Passengers are subject to a facilitated-transit regime agreed by Russia and the EU which allows Kaliningrad residents access to Russia via without an EU transit visa.

Any interruption could strain relations between Moscow and Brussels. Kaliningrad transit was a key sticking-point in Russia-EU negotiations over Lithuania's EU accession in 2004.

The pipeline at the centre of the dispute, known as 'Druzhba' ('Friendship'), carries crude oil from Russia to the Lithuanian oil refinery of Mazeikiai. The pipe sprang a leak and was closed in late July, an incident which all sides called a 'technical problem.'

Doubts over this interpretation began when it was revealed that Druzhba was still supplying crude oil to Belarus. The Moscow Times then quoted the head of Russia's transit company Transneft, Semyon Vainshtok, as saying that the pipe might never be reopened.

Vainshtok subsequently claimed that he had been misinterpreted, according to Russian-language newspaper Telegraf. However, following his comments, Lithuanian Prime Minister Gediminas Kirkilas hinted that the closure could be seen as a political move, BNS reported.

The Mazeikiai refinery has seldom been out of the headlines this year. Once part of the former Yukos empire, it was sold to Polish firm PKN Orlen in May despite protests from Russian bankruptcy receivers.

Commentators viewed the government-approved deal as an attempt to increase Lithuania's energy security. Orlen has no crude-oil production facilities of its own, but is headquartered in fellow NATO and EU member Poland, making it a more politically acceptable partner.

Some observers interpret the pipeline closure as a Russian retaliation for the sale. Russian companies Rosneft and Lukoil were also reported to be interested in Mazeikiai, the Baltics' only refinery, which is currently being supplied by sea.

Neither Januskas nor the Lithuanian Foreign Ministry were available to comment on the report.

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Benn Wrote:An undersecretary at the Lithuanian Foreign Ministry, Albinas Januskas...
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His surname is Januška not Januskas. I checked your source, and its primary goal is entertainment. Just for fun and entertainment, I suppose, Russians called Latvian president the governor of New Zealand when she went to Moscow on a big Putin's show called May 9. Why not to cite sources that are well-known, trusty and devoted to bringing the news in the first instance?
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