Russia: The Awakening

[John]

It is interesting how Russia struggles with the economic crisis.
It's entire economy was based on oil and gas now when all of these are much cheaper what is their strategy?

[Newrussian town]

We had worse times like a time of so called freedom and democracy, don't worry my friend, we have a lot of resources to be strong. I believe in our leader-Putin as a millions of our citizens. We are trying to make some kind of hybrid of Communism and Capitalism,Comrades :mrgreen:

[John]

I thought that your leader at the moment is Medvedev... ? hock:

[Newrussian town]

I thought that your leader at the moment is Medvedev... ? hock:

Yes he is , but citizens belive only in Putin. This is some kind of national tradition :lol:

[Eka]

We had worse times like a time of so called freedom and democracy, don't worry my friend, we have a lot of resources to be strong. I believe in our leader-Putin as a millions of our citizens. We are trying to make some kind of hybrid of Communism and Capitalism,Comrades :mrgreen:

Venseremos! :haha :haha :haha :haha

You are living in Russia or on the moon?As I remember you really live on the moon. :haha :haha

[Newrussian town]

Dear Eka, I am glad that your are laughing , this is so rear thing in our times, I think that the Moon is really a good place for livening, there is no USA and it's puppets. But any way thanks for your point of view .

[RussianRussianRussian]

Well Lenus wasnt SU internationaly recognized? Including Georgia. You got your independence? - you got.
See how can things change for a decade? History wheel cannot be stopped. Yor nation asked Russian empire for protection now you seek protection from us. Were this two provincess officialy recognized by Russia as independent states? They still are not. Your best friends shaken global order with thier action and not we are to blame for them. Do they cared about your situation? They granted independece just becouse they wanted to do it. And Russia would never start conflict with Georgia for just no reason. You may think that we have no freedom in Russia but it is not so. Even western media accept that conflict started after Saakashwili tried to subdue S Osetia. If you were president would you trie to provoke larger nighbor or (how it is viewed in western media) accept to lure yourself into Russian trap?

It is already proofed 90%. Georgia have not started this. watch free meida and listen to experts on CNN BBC and ALjazira. and most important ----- Analize information you receive from various sorces.Look more carefuly at your presidents and you will understand.

Children really your mass media war in Georgia it is wrong in the beginning made comments.
I even was disappointed in European mass media.

When Georgia has begun war against Ossetia, your mass-media were silent, as-as if occurs nothing. After Georgia had been practically destroyed a city of Tskhinvali and the Russian peace-making posts have been destroyed.
Russia has entered armies, for the help to Ossetins living there. And only after that, suddenly as if on command all European mass media have suddenly noticed that here to all there is a war, and before well in any way did not notice.

Actually against Russia information war was conducted.
And to Europeans Georgia in advance prepared lie stood out.


Transfer of the message did by the program the translator so excuse if is clumsily written.

[Guest]

Thats irrelevant for our discussion. I know that anyway.
SInce you didnt respond to my point made, shall I assume you are tyring to dodge the point?

What i am trying to say that YOUR GOVERNMENT made HUGE MISTAKE in thier foreign relations and now tries to blame Russia for thier mistakes. It is realy easy becouse our planes bombed Georgia and our soldiers are on Georgian soil. I dont expect georgians to love Russia and blame only thier president, i just want to say that there are some people in your country baring responsability for present situation.

Doesn't matter. even if it is a HUGE mistake, it does not reveal Russia of Responsibilities for the Criminal Performance.

OK?

Russia has protected from destruction friendly to us the people of Ossetia.

And have provoked country war which armed Georgia and which have allowed to attack Georgia Ossetia

[manro1]

If russian troops entered Khanty- mansijsk it is no the war, because it belogs to russia.
Osetia and Abxazia belong to Georgia so it was no a war untill Russia cross the border and invade Georgia. :-P

[SiD]

If russian troops entered Khanty- mansijsk it is no the war, because it belogs to russia.
Osetia and Abxazia belong to Georgia so it was no a war untill Russia cross the border and invade Georgia. :-P

I suppose you havent heard about Russian peacekeepers stationed there with mandate to maintain peace? Deoes it tells you something? Well if it does than you can understand why attack on this soldiers coused military response. :-P .

[manro1]

If russian troops entered Khanty- mansijsk it is no the war, because it belogs to russia.
Osetia and Abxazia belong to Georgia so it was no a war untill Russia cross the border and invade Georgia. :-P

I suppose you havent heard about Russian peacekeepers stationed there with mandate to maintain peace? Deoes it tells you something? Well if it does than you can understand why attack on this soldiers coused military response. :-P .

So how come attack on peacekeepers in Gaza does not get that particular country involved?
How come it was no other countrys peace keepers there? was is UN mandate?

[Truth]

Georgia, Ukraine, Baltic States, Poland are political prostitutes rather than democracies. When you pay them they love you. When you pay them more they starting to shit on your Neighbours.


Anecdote:
Saakashvili stays on bridge and sees the piece of shit passing by in the river waters.
Shit :deg says: Hello my :oO colleague!
What kind of colleague am i for you :quoi ? , Saaki :fi shvilli replies
Shit added: We're both are from the internal organs of the United States :haha

[SiD]

So how come attack on peacekeepers in Gaza does not get that particular country involved?
How come it was no other countrys peace keepers there? was is UN mandate?

Do you see no difference between rogue attcks and open military confrontation with army of foreign state? It werent some georgian shitheads attacking it was army, army of foreign state send ther by political leadership who didnt denied that fact. More than that attack was aimed to annex territory with use of arsenal of heavy weapons so it is called agression you see. To counter such treat peacekeepers were not enough so army was involved. With all the results that followed.

[sektor_Gaza]

I love Russia, I respect Vladimir Putin and Dmitriy Medvedev. I have picture of Putin on my desk. Having such men is great luck for Russia and its prospect future.

[manro1]

So how come attack on peacekeepers in Gaza does not get that particular country involved?
How come it was no other countrys peace keepers there? was is UN mandate?

Do you see no difference between rogue attcks and open military confrontation with army of foreign state? It werent some georgian shitheads attacking it was army, army of foreign state send ther by political leadership who didnt denied that fact. More than that attack was aimed to annex territory with use of arsenal of heavy weapons so it is called agression you see. To counter such treat peacekeepers were not enough so army was involved. With all the results that followed.

You can "annex territory" if i doesn't belong , but Those teretories were/ are part of Georgia . Yes or No?
Why Russian peacekeeper were there was is UN mandate?

[Moskal]

Actually USA says the anti-missile program aims only to protect that region and not to attack. As an example of a country to be defended from, Rice mentioned Iran.

If somebody puts on a better shield, that means he is going to attack some day. therefore, counter-mesures need to be taken according to the means available. They can be offensive. But the shield in this context is offensive too as it gives its owner the feeling of freedom in everything (let's put it this way).
Defense and attack should be balanced to keep peace - that's axioma, my friend.

[Guest]

I love Russia, I respect Vladimir Putin and Dmitriy Medvedev. I have picture of Putin on my desk. Having such men is great luck for Russia and its prospect future.

I understand that Germans felt the same way about Adolf Hitler.... I truly hope that Russia and Russians like you do not suffer the same fate that they did, but this is surely what will happen if Russia tries anything militarily against Ukraine or Poland. Putin got away with Georgia just as Hitler did with Czechosolvakia but things are different now. NATO has already issued a warning in response to the current gas crisis. Persoanlly, I don't think Putin is foolish enough to test its forces against NATO.

[sektor_Gaza]

I love Russia, I respect Vladimir Putin and Dmitriy Medvedev. I have picture of Putin on my desk. Having such men is great luck for Russia and its prospect future.

I understand that Germans felt the same way about Adolf Hitler.... I truly hope that Russia and Russians like you do not suffer the same fate that they did, but this is surely what will happen if Russia tries anything militarily against Ukraine or Poland. Putin got away with Georgia just as Hitler did with Czechosolvakia but things are different now. NATO has already issued a warning in response to the current gas crisis. Persoanlly, I don't think Putin is foolish enough to test its forces against NATO.

So funny hear your hating or envying towards Russia! If you believe at your words, so stay afriad as your country is next to be invaded :mrgreen:

[Canpee Farther]

I love Russia, I respect Vladimir Putin and Dmitriy Medvedev. I have picture of Putin on my desk. Having such men is great luck for Russia and its prospect future.

I understand that Germans felt the same way about Adolf Hitler.... I truly hope that Russia and Russians like you do not suffer the same fate that they did, but this is surely what will happen if Russia tries anything militarily against Ukraine or Poland. Putin got away with Georgia just as Hitler did with Czechosolvakia but things are different now. NATO has already issued a warning in response to the current gas crisis. Persoanlly, I don't think Putin is foolish enough to test its forces against NATO.

So funny hear your hating or envying towards Russia! If you believe at your words, so stay afriad as your country is next to be invaded :mrgreen:

If other people who support Putin are like you then I am really really sad for you, for your country and even for Putin --he must be really embarrased to be supported by idiots... or perhaps that is why they support him? Anyway, you sound just like a Nazi. Thank god, Putin is much much smarter.

[sektor_Gaza]

If other people who support Putin are like you then I am really really sad for you, for your country and even for Putin --he must be really embarrased to be supported by idiots... or perhaps that is why they support him? Anyway, you sound just like a Nazi. Thank god, Putin is much much smarter.

Most people prefer to suffer from hearing "Idiots" at them, rather than be brainwashed by western biased press like you, which filtered information for US geopolitic needs.
Yes Putin is smart and Russian know that and benefit from his successful management. He is the best president among others in Europe!

[SiD]

You can "annex territory" if i doesn't belong , but Those teretories were/ are part of Georgia . Yes or No?
Why Russian peacekeeper were there was is UN mandate?

I imahine they just walked into georgian territory and declared peace . Dont you think it was some kind of agreement of 3 sides? Which involved Russia, Georgia, S Osetia. Sure you can bet that was. Surprise! our peacekeepers were ther more than 10 years, and your post suggests that you surprised that they were ther. If i am wrong about your post than sorry.
And by annex i meant annex becouse i just didnt played with words and said thruth. This region was in fact independent from Dbilisi they had thier own police, army,government, economy everything. Than georgians come in with artillery and tanks and starts to take place over and not with the kind word.

[SiD]

I understand that Germans felt the same way about Adolf Hitler.... I truly hope that Russia and Russians like you do not suffer the same fate that they did, but this is surely what will happen if Russia tries anything militarily against Ukraine or Poland. Putin got away with Georgia just as Hitler did with Czechosolvakia but things are different now. NATO has already issued a warning in response to the current gas crisis. Persoanlly, I don't think Putin is foolish enough to test its forces against NATO.

My dear guest if you know the role that USSR played in deefeating nazi you would know that there is no such country in the world now, i mean with such unique hmmmm methods. I suppose "no step back" tells you nothing?. But no matter. Not to mention that todays weaponry is a little different from that days.
And you right Putin isnt fool to wage war against NATO same is truth for NATO they arent fools to wage war against Russia so who is first to bait some piece of non aligned ground that get away with it. Believe me if tommorov Russian forces taken ower Ukraine it wont be any such war either.
And last thing to say that one must be REALY ignorant to compare Putin with Hitler. You really need to learn more about Putin or about Hitler.

[Canpee Further]

If other people who support Putin are like you then I am really really sad for you, for your country and even for Putin --he must be really embarrased to be supported by idiots... or perhaps that is why they support him? Anyway, you sound just like a Nazi. Thank god, Putin is much much smarter.

Most people prefer to suffer from hearing "Idiots" at them, rather than be brainwashed by western biased press like you, which filtered information for US geopolitic needs.
Yes Putin is smart and Russian know that and benefit from his successful management. He is the best president among others in Europe!

It is easy to be a successful manager when times are good. The real test comes now. Almost half of Russia's foreign currency reserves have already been spent, and the crisis is only beginning. Russia still imports more food and basics then it produces. I wonder if you will you still be saying the same things about Putin when you are standing in line waiting to buy bread. You say that I am brainwashed? Perhaps, but at least I have a brain to be washed.

[Guest]

You can "annex territory" if i doesn't belong , but Those teretories were/ are part of Georgia . Yes or No?
Why Russian peacekeeper were there was is UN mandate?

I imahine they just walked into georgian territory and declared peace . Dont you think it was some kind of agreement of 3 sides? Which involved Russia, Georgia, S Osetia. Sure you can bet that was. Surprise! our peacekeepers were ther more than 10 years, and your post suggests that you surprised that they were ther. If i am wrong about your post than sorry.
And by annex i meant annex becouse i just didnt played with words and said thruth. This region was in fact independent from Dbilisi they had thier own police, army,government, economy everything. Than georgians come in with artillery and tanks and starts to take place over and not with the kind word.

i WILL ASK AGAIN WAS IT UN MANDATE? YOU SEEM TO DODGE THIS QUESTION SO I AM COMING TO CONCLUSSION THAT IT WAS NOT UN THAT SEND RUSSIAN TROOPS THERE AND IT WAS NO OTHER TROOPS THERE TO KEEP PEACE.

[Guest]

I understand that Germans felt the same way about Adolf Hitler.... I truly hope that Russia and Russians like you do not suffer the same fate that they did, but this is surely what will happen if Russia tries anything militarily against Ukraine or Poland. Putin got away with Georgia just as Hitler did with Czechosolvakia but things are different now. NATO has already issued a warning in response to the current gas crisis. Persoanlly, I don't think Putin is foolish enough to test its forces against NATO.

My dear guest if you know the role that USSR played in deefeating nazi you would know that there is no such country in the world now, i mean with such unique hmmmm methods. I suppose "no step back" tells you nothing?. But no matter. Not to mention that todays weaponry is a little different from that days.
And you right Putin isnt fool to wage war against NATO same is truth for NATO they arent fools to wage war against Russia so who is first to bait some piece of non aligned ground that get away with it. Believe me if tommorov Russian forces taken ower Ukraine it wont be any such war either.
And last thing to say that one must be REALY ignorant to compare Putin with Hitler. You really need to learn more about Putin or about Hitler.

Stalin made a pact with Hitler. Both the Americans and Russians try to take credit for defeating Hitler but the British were the true heros --they are the only ones who fought him from the beginning until the end. Russia and America used WWII to build empire the British gave their empire up. But forget about that. I suspect I know more about Putin than you can imagine. We are of a generation. Putin is one of few people who realy understands the meaning of Hitlers statement that :It is not important what people believe, it is important that people BELIEVE. Putin studied a lot or Hitlers speeches. (Ask him and maybe he will quote some of them for you. Sometimes he puts on the stress and accent and it is really very funny) Putin is a master of deception, media manipulation and dissimilation, or simply, of making people believe --whatever he wants them too. He has made many believe that Russia is a great historical nation and the Russian people are the greatest in the world and, like Hitler, that the rest of world is either inferior or decadent and decaying and Russia therefore has the right and the destiny to be above it. Putin misses feelings of greatness that the USSR gave him. He wants it back again. And he is using the capacity of people to simply BELIEVE to create it for himself. Did you know that at the beginning Hitler was good for Germany? Putin was good for Russia too... but now he is destroying it. Like Hitler did to Germany. And what now little man you are helping him to do it.