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Russia: The Awakening
#26
After clashes in the Georgian region of South Ossetia, Russia invaded its neighbor, launching attacks that threaten its very existence.
Dear sid,
After Clashes means after clashes and not invasion of Georgia. yes, there were clashes provoked by Russians and Ossetians. During months local georgian population has been leavin under permanent attacks. And Russian so called peace keepers failed to do anything to defend them. As they have actually never been peace keepers, but representatives of one party of the conflict
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#27
If Russian peacemakers didn't stay at the border between Georgia and South Osetia the war between these regions would be inevitable.
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#28
Well Lenus, using your analogy would you blame person whom you intrusted safety of your house for opening to a rober claiming he is policeman but will rob him if he opens the door?
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#29
Frederic Wrote:After clashes in the Georgian region of South Ossetia, Russia invaded its neighbor, launching attacks that threaten its very existence.
Dear sid,
After Clashes means after clashes and not invasion of Georgia. yes, there were clashes provoked by Russians and Ossetians. During months local georgian population has been leavin under permanent attacks. And Russian so called peace keepers failed to do anything to defend them. As they have actually never been peace keepers, but representatives of one party of the conflict

Well I am surprised that MCCAIN havent told that after georgia tried to spread flowers, love, peace, happines and wealth in S Osetia bad Russia started its invasion to take it all from his little, majestick, peacefull, beutifull democracy.
If he told after clashes it speaks quite volums to me.
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#30
SiD Wrote:Well Lenus, using your analogy would you blame person whom you intrusted safety of your house for opening to a rober claiming he is policeman but will rob him if he opens the door?

SiD,

Sure, but there are degrees of blame.
And under no circumstances I would put that person in jail. Also, If I was a Judge, wouldn't even consider an argument like "Serviceman made a mistake and opened the door himself".

Mistake is a mistake. Crime - another level.
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#31
SiD Wrote:Well I am surprised that MCCAIN havent told that after georgia tried to spread flowers, love, peace, happines and wealth in S Osetia bad Russia started its invasion to take it all from his little, majestick, peacefull, beutifull democracy.
If he told after clashes it speaks quite volums to me.

:lol:

I beleive we are going to witness some funny times if McCain is elected.
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#32
If McCain is elected it will be very funny, yeah, unfortunately both Russia and USA will only lose in that case. It is just bad that we cant use "save&load" and se if McCain an Zhirinovsky are elected in Usa and Russia respectively. That would be real circus
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#33
Lenus Wrote:
SiD Wrote:Well Lenus, using your analogy would you blame person whom you intrusted safety of your house for opening to a rober claiming he is policeman but will rob him if he opens the door?

SiD,

Sure, but there are degrees of blame.
And under no circumstances I would put that person in jail. Also, If I was a Judge, wouldn't even consider an argument like "Serviceman made a mistake and opened the door himself".

Mistake is a mistake. Crime - another level.

Unfortunatly price for mistakes of politics is usualy paid by thier own (and other) people.
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#34
watch what Zhyrinovskyi thinks about Georgia war (in Russian)
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#35
SiD Wrote:Unfortunatly price for mistakes of politics is usualy paid by thier own (and other) people.

Thats irrelevant for our discussion. I know that anyway.
SInce you didnt respond to my point made, shall I assume you are tyring to dodge the point?
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#36
Lenus Wrote:
SiD Wrote:Unfortunatly price for mistakes of politics is usualy paid by thier own (and other) people.

Thats irrelevant for our discussion. I know that anyway.
SInce you didnt respond to my point made, shall I assume you are tyring to dodge the point?

What i am trying to say that YOUR GOVERNMENT made HUGE MISTAKE in thier foreign relations and now tries to blame Russia for thier mistakes. It is realy easy becouse our planes bombed Georgia and our soldiers are on Georgian soil. I dont expect georgians to love Russia and blame only thier president, i just want to say that there are some people in your country baring responsability for present situation.
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#37
SiD Wrote:
Lenus Wrote:
SiD Wrote:Unfortunatly price for mistakes of politics is usualy paid by thier own (and other) people.

Thats irrelevant for our discussion. I know that anyway.
SInce you didnt respond to my point made, shall I assume you are tyring to dodge the point?

What i am trying to say that YOUR GOVERNMENT made HUGE MISTAKE in thier foreign relations and now tries to blame Russia for thier mistakes. It is realy easy becouse our planes bombed Georgia and our soldiers are on Georgian soil. I dont expect georgians to love Russia and blame only thier president, i just want to say that there are some people in your country baring responsability for present situation.

Doesn't matter. even if it is a HUGE mistake, it does not reveal Russia of Responsibilities for the Criminal Performance.

OK?
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#38
Lenus Wrote:Doesn't matter. even if it is a HUGE mistake, it does not reveal Russia of Responsibilities for the Criminal Performance.

OK?

How is it doesnt matter? War could be avoided by Saakashvili he is making his HUGE mistake and here we are. Do you ellect government to make such costly mistakes? They must solve problems not make them worse.
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#39
Name of topic is - Russia : The Awakening.

I want to add Russia is awakening and what it sees : she have two presidents who cannot devide power with each other and she sees Jirinivski, so she gos to sleep again.
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#40
what did you mean by "she sees Zhyrinovskyi". He is the opposite of the current governing you know.
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#41
M.Helen Wrote:what did you mean by "she sees Zhyrinovskyi". He is the opposite of the current governing you know.
It is a bit rediculous that a person who knows nothing about Solzhenitsin and Gulag, is aware of the political platform of Mr. Zhirinovsky. I am confident about Russia`s future now.
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#42
But Helen is right, Zhyrinovski is in the opposite party. If he was the president, Georgia would have disappeared after South Osetia had been attacked. These are his words
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#43
Benn Wrote:But Helen is right, Zhyrinovski is in the opposite party. If he was the president, Georgia would have disappeared after South Osetia had been attacked. These are his words
Thanks God he is not the President. But everybody knows that he provides ideological background for Kremlin. Zhirinovsky says what Kremlin dreams about. And it apears now that Kremlin has startted realizing of Zhironovsky`s most wild wishes.
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#44
sure it does. That's why he will never win any president elections due to 2 reasons:
- he will be old by the next elections
- he won't achieve even 20 of votes.
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#45
Hakan G Wrote:Can somebody reestablish peace and quiet?
Sure.

Several bulava's, or just one "Tzar Bomba" on Poland and Czech, and there will be peace and quiet again.

Search in youtube.com after "bulava" and "tsar bomb".
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#46
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#47
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#48
Frederic Wrote:
Benn Wrote:But Helen is right, Zhyrinovski is in the opposite party. If he was the president, Georgia would have disappeared after South Osetia had been attacked. These are his words
Thanks God he is not the President. But everybody knows that he provides ideological background for Kremlin. Zhirinovsky says what Kremlin dreams about. And it apears now that Kremlin has startted realizing of Zhironovsky`s most wild wishes.

You're more than right, my friend. Indeed, It looks like the country is being run by Zhirinovsky :roll:
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#49
That guy is even more dangerous than Stalin was. He is ready to launch any nuclear weapon against anybody that would stumble Russia.


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#50
Gerinivskiy is talking so much that sometimes speaks true. But it is not what cremlin or russian people realy dreaming about. But hey i realy like this one Smile . Bad that you can not see him often, sometimes he is as funny as humorist. He can make talk show realy interesting and intertaining.
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