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Russia: The Awakening
Eka Wrote:Name of topic is - Russia : The Awakening.

I want to add Russia is awakening and what it sees : she have two presidents who cannot devide power with each other and she sees Jirinivski, so she gos to sleep again.


EKA, seems you're from some abandoned regions in zimbabwe (it's in Africa) KGB agents are coming for you :banghead
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Canpee Further Wrote:
sektor_Gaza Wrote:
Quote:If other people who support Putin are like you then I am really really sad for you, for your country and even for Putin --he must be really embarrased to be supported by idiots... or perhaps that is why they support him? Anyway, you sound just like a Nazi. Thank god, Putin is much much smarter.

Most people prefer to suffer from hearing "Idiots" at them, rather than be brainwashed by western biased press like you, which filtered information for US geopolitic needs.
Yes Putin is smart and Russian know that and benefit from his successful management. He is the best president among others in Europe!


It is easy to be a successful manager when times are good. The real test comes now. Almost half of Russia's foreign currency reserves have already been spent, and the crisis is only beginning. Russia still imports more food and basics then it produces. I wonder if you will you still be saying the same things about Putin when you are standing in line waiting to buy bread. You say that I am brainwashed? Perhaps, but at least I have a brain to be washed.

But nobody in the so called West can steal Russian Confidence Feeling for the Wealthy Future. You can steal our gas, oil, even suppress us politically and economically. But Russians will succeed as the truth on Russia's Side. We never started wars since independence from Soviet Camp. We do not need vassals! We need true friends and we have them at West and its backyards! Smile Ha ha ha
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Smile Best Russia's Friends in EU are Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, France.
And Serbia in the Europe of course.
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Guest Wrote:i WILL ASK AGAIN WAS IT UN MANDATE? YOU SEEM TO DODGE THIS QUESTION SO I AM COMING TO CONCLUSSION THAT IT WAS NOT UN THAT SEND RUSSIAN TROOPS THERE AND IT WAS NO OTHER TROOPS THERE TO KEEP PEACE.

I havent "dodged". It was no UN mandate on maintaining peace it was 3 sides agreement i do not want to search what exactly, and i suppose in fact it became dust wenn cannons started to speak. There were peacekeepers from Georgia too if you think that there were only Russian peacekeepers. Anyway you got the idea trugh previus posts that it was HUGE mistake to attack them.
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sektor_Gaza Wrote:Smile But nobody in the so called West can steal Russian Confidence Feeling for the Wealthy Future. You can steal our gas, oil, even suppress us politically and economically. But Russians will succeed as the truth on Russia's Side. We never started wars since independence from Soviet Camp. We do not need vassals! We need true friends and we have them at West and its backyards! Ha ha ha

Best Russia's Friends in EU are Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, France.
And Serbia in the Europe of course.

Remember, the life that Russians are just starting to enjoy now has been enjoyed by Westerners for almost three generations. I come from a working class background but I was wearing blue jeans and driving my own car when I was 17 and your parents were standing in food lines. No one in the West wants to steal Russian Confidence... they just don't want to pay for it like Georgia did!! As for your friends.... of course countires like Italy and especially Germany are friends.... they are making billions and billions of dollars from you, but wait and see how friendly they are when the money is gone (as it soon will be).

As for your hahaha, they have a few sayings in the West: First, pride goes before the fall and second, He who laughs last, laughs best. Enjoy yourself, I'm not proud, I'll wait while keep laughing for as long as you can because when you finally really do wake up, it will be my turn.))
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guest Wrote:Stalin made a pact with Hitler. Both the Americans and Russians try to take credit for defeating Hitler but the British were the true heros --they are the only ones who fought him from the beginning until the end. Russia and America used WWII to build empire the British gave their empire up. But forget about that. I suspect I know more about Putin than you can imagine. We are of a generation. Putin is one of few people who realy understands the meaning of Hitlers statement that :It is not important what people believe, it is important that people BELIEVE. Putin studied a lot or Hitlers speeches. (Ask him and maybe he will quote some of them for you. Sometimes he puts on the stress and accent and it is really very funny) Putin is a master of deception, media manipulation and dissimilation, or simply, of making people believe --whatever he wants them too. He has made many believe that Russia is a great historical nation and the Russian people are the greatest in the world and, like Hitler, that the rest of world is either inferior or decadent and decaying and Russia therefore has the right and the destiny to be above it. Putin misses feelings of greatness that the USSR gave him. He wants it back again. And he is using the capacity of people to simply BELIEVE to create it for himself. Did you know that at the beginning Hitler was good for Germany? Putin was good for Russia too... but now he is destroying it. Like Hitler did to Germany. And what now little man you are helping him to do it.

Stalin made pact with Hitler thats bad, but it isnt topic to argue about ww2 and why something was done as it was suffice to say everyone cared about his own well being including our dear future allies.
OOh british people fought in ww2 and wery bravely no one denies that, even if they had to grab thier bags and depart to England quickly wenn France was defeated they made quite an effort in defeating nazi but Second front was opened only in 44 not in 40 or 41.
Hey you know sooo much about Putin but before claim that i suggest you to leasten or read at least one of his speeches becouse you wont find ther rubbish about "gratest nation, inferior decandent all others and destiny above them". Please try to separate your imagination from reality. And if he is talking that Russia is great nation he of course right, and if he wants Russia to be respected and strong country by all means he is right we all want the same. Btw try to question americans do they think USA is grat nation? Must it be strong and respected? Do not mistacke patriots for nationalists it only speaks poorly about you, not about patriots.
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Canpee Further Wrote:Remember, the life that Russians are just starting to enjoy now has been enjoyed by Westerners for almost three generations. I come from a working class background but I was wearing blue jeans and driving my own car when I was 17 and your parents were standing in food lines. No one in the West wants to steal Russian Confidence... they just don't want to pay for it like Georgia did!! As for your friends.... of course countires like Italy and especially Germany are friends.... they are making billions and billions of dollars from you, but wait and see how friendly they are when the money is gone (as it soon will be).

As for your hahaha, they have a few sayings in the West: First, pride goes before the fall and second, He who laughs last, laughs best. Enjoy yourself, I'm not proud, I'll wait while keep laughing for as long as you can because when you finally really do wake up, it will be my turn.))

Take your time Smile but i prefer to have fun in this life.
Besides he might be just in good mood so he expresses his joy with ha ha. So improve your mood have some fun.
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SiD Wrote:
Canpee Further Wrote:As for your hahaha, they have a few sayings in the West: First, pride goes before the fall and second, He who laughs last, laughs best. Enjoy yourself, I'm not proud, I'll wait while you keep laughing for as long as you can because when you finally really do wake up, it will be my turn.))

Take your time Smile but i prefer to have fun in this life.
Besides he might be just in good mood so he expresses his joy with ha ha. So improve your mood have some fun.

Ha ha ha!) Thank you for the kind sentiments, and relax, I AM enjoying myself here just as much as YOU are! Especially now that the gas is flowing --at least until some former KGB thugs decide to blow it up so that Russia will have a pretense for invading Ukraine.
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The awakening of Russia is necessary. But first of all we vitally need its traditional culture and science.
Every passing hour brings the Solar System forty-three thousand miles closer to Globular Cluster M13 in Hercules - and still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress.
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Kusnetsov Wrote:The awakening of Russia is necessary. But first of all we vitally need its traditional culture and science.

Traditional Russian culture and science cant exist until Russia awakens. They were made slaves to the communist system and they are still slaves. How can we free them if we don't awake up?
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Kusnetsov Wrote:But first of all we vitally need its traditional culture and science.
Fully agree with you. Although we all know the paradox when the censorship did not prevent great movies and literature creations. Now everybody can publish everything and shoot any movies but we hardly have anything worthwhile.
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Guest Wrote:
Kusnetsov Wrote:But first of all we vitally need its traditional culture and science.
Fully agree with you. Although we all know the paradox when the censorship did not prevent great movies and literature creations. Now everybody can publish everything and shoot any movies but we hardly have anything worthwhile.
Amen.
Every passing hour brings the Solar System forty-three thousand miles closer to Globular Cluster M13 in Hercules - and still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress.
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SiD Wrote:
Lenus Wrote:Doesn't matter. even if it is a HUGE mistake, it does not reveal Russia of Responsibilities for the Criminal Performance.

OK?

How is it doesnt matter? War could be avoided by Saakashvili he is making his HUGE mistake and here we are. Do you ellect government to make such costly mistakes? They must solve problems not make them worse.
War could of been avoided by Russia as well.
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Guest Wrote:
SiD Wrote:
Lenus Wrote:Doesn't matter. even if it is a HUGE mistake, it does not reveal Russia of Responsibilities for the Criminal Performance.

OK?

How is it doesnt matter? War could be avoided by Saakashvili he is making his HUGE mistake and here we are. Do you ellect government to make such costly mistakes? They must solve problems not make them worse.

War could of been avoided by Russia as well.

Dont waste your time. SiD is an idiot. He even blames the EU for RUSSIAs decision to shut off our gas!! I guess Russia and Putin must be a really weak because nothing they do is THEIR fault. It is always someone else who does bad things. The NEW Russia is worse that the old soviet union -at least the OLD Russia (USSR ) kept its business deals!
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Guest Wrote:War could of been avoided by Russia as well.

And that was the goal wasnt it? Goal of negotiensions that should take place the day wenn it all began. But you cant avoid war if other side already started it.
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SiD Wrote:
Guest Wrote:War could of been avoided by Russia as well.

And that was the goal wasnt it? Goal of negotiensions that should take place the day wenn it all began. But you cant avoid war if other side already started it.

Abxazia was /is par of GEorgia. Russia was picking fight with Georgia long before war. Declaring Goergian wines are not good to be sold in Russia,(Good enogh to be sold in US and Canada) sending Georgian embasador out. Dont tell me you tryed you were looking for conflict.
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Guest Wrote:Abxazia was /is par of GEorgia. Russia was picking fight with Georgia long before war. Declaring Goergian wines are not good to be sold in Russia,(Good enogh to be sold in US and Canada) sending Georgian embasador out. Dont tell me you tryed you were looking for conflict.

By not buyng wine? Smile . You see parhaps what was sold in US or Cnada was good enough wine but what was sold on Russian market wasnt and sending embassador out is not mortal insult. If you think it is enough to start war than you have odd view.
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SiD Wrote:
Guest Wrote:Abxazia was /is par of GEorgia. Russia was picking fight with Georgia long before war. Declaring Goergian wines are not good to be sold in Russia,(Good enogh to be sold in US and Canada) sending Georgian embasador out. Dont tell me you tryed you were looking for conflict.

By not buyng wine? Smile . You see parhaps what was sold in US or Cnada was good enough wine but what was sold on Russian market wasnt and sending embassador out is not mortal insult. If you think it is enough to start war than you have odd view.
Sid what grad are you in? Because only child can be like you. In most instanses if embasador has been send out it is pre-war condition and russia did it longtime before war started.
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Guest Wrote:Sid what grad are you in? Because only child can be like you. In most instanses if embasador has been send out it is pre-war condition and russia did it longtime before war started.

You know if you think you would be more convincing if you try to insult me you have mistaken. Poor argument if pre war condition was made why not to declare war after? Of course than we can argue who started this war but you know what i think or you can quess at least. As before you can find tons of opinions mine included in related topics.
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Hakan G Wrote:Recently, today, a Russian official (general of an army) said that Poland will face problems if it continues its partnership regarding the USA’s anti-missile program.

I’m shocked. Was this a threat of another invasion?
Can somebody reestablish peace and quiet?


Yes, but only if Russia wakes up! If it does not, then Russia is indeed in for a very rude "awakening."
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"a Russian general said Poland will face problems if it continues its partnership regarding the USA’s anti-missile program"
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Looks like he’s a very insensitive and tactless Russian general.

Look at us folks in the civilized world. We never threaten with bad weapons of war.

We threaten with

- Good weapons

- Peaceful weapons

- Purely defensive weapons [!!]

- Democracy weapons

- Truly Christian weapons

Most important, these weapons are manned by those fighting on the side of the angels against the existential threat in the East, to bring the light of civilization there, etc.

This is how to threaten!
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I feel like our relationships are going bad. So I can say that Russia had not known what is to be defeated. I am a soldier and if my Mother land will ask me to defend it; I would capture "Berlin" one's again like our assisters did. Your Western vassals were attacking our people in Ossetia, and you are saying that It was our fault! These military actions in Georgia, after the war, for what? This is a provocation. Yes the Russia is awaking!!! And we will fight against you!!!
The best political regime for the nation is a regime which was saved this nation like an entire one. (M. Montein)
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sektor_Gaza Wrote:Smile Best Russia's Friends in EU are Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, France.
And Serbia in the Europe of course.


Really most of them are NATO countries, I am surprised to find out the NATO coutries are "our best friends"
Stop smocking weed. :lol:
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Quote:Really most of them are NATO countries, I am surprised to find out the NATO coutries are "our best friends"
Stop smocking weed.

Don't be an idiot.
Every passing hour brings the Solar System forty-three thousand miles closer to Globular Cluster M13 in Hercules - and still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress.
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Europe Forum Guest Wrote:
sektor_Gaza Wrote:Smile Best Russia's Friends in EU are Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, France.
And Serbia in the Europe of course.


Really most of them are NATO countries, I am surprised to find out the NATO coutries are "our best friends"
Stop smocking weed. :lol:



I must agree with the above. How is it that all of a sudden NATO counties are Russians best friends.
Didn't NATO just expeled Russian diplomants? :banghead
And yeh :" stop smocking weed" :haha
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